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HRNET@yahoogroups.com
Jan 1, 2005 1:02 pm
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With all due respect to the esteemed Dr. Sullivan, when it comes to raises, "HR People" may be the providers (i.e., the administrators), but they are not the...
I just sent to Dr John Sullivan a reply to his latest post in the "HR as Socialists" thread. I meant to send it to the list as well so I'll reconstruct it...
I'm just wondering whether it's possible to actually discuss facts, figures, and information, WITHOUT the requirement that we insert some label, as has been...
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HRNET@yahoogroups.com
Jan 2, 2005 12:40 pm
18608
Dr. Sullivan calls HR's "lack" of attention to performance "socialism." My experience is that our administration of salaries is, rather, a form of marketing....
... Terrence OK, you pushed my button It's time to stop the whining in HR over the fact that we can't be accountable for people results because we don't have...
Dr John Sullivan
johns@...
Jan 3, 2005 12:44 pm
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... It's not whining. Just the facts as I have seen them in several corporations where I have worked. Happy New Year! Terry Terrence Seamon T & OD Guy AGL...
I have to say that I totally agree with John. His logic and arguments are sound. As always, I find that his thoughtful postings help me challenge my own...
I work for Kansas City Public Library, which has about 260 employees in ten locations. We use Blackbaud's "Financial Edge" product, including the Payroll...
His logic and arguments are good, but just like socks, they will not fit all. There are some places that treat HR as if it is nothing but a clerical function....
I wish I as the HR Director had control of what the turkey gets. I was informed that we would ALL be getting 3% this year superemployee or turkey. However,...
I agree with Mr. Bacal's comment but I am forced to consider this topic with its label did generate much discussion. It is sad but true that "sex sells" as do...
I changed the title of this thread to HR As A Profit Center. But first a response to Doug Khalish's posting... ... I'm curious Doug. I'll give you the "much"...
Hi Fred, Perhaps profit center goes somewhat far, however we have seen that the PeopleSoft Finance division of Ahold tries to stand on its feet by becoming a...
Gijs Houtzagers
gijs@...
Jan 4, 2005 5:45 pm
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... It does sell, and the sad truth is there are speakers, consultants, and yes, authors and university professors that deliberately "troll" for financial gain...
Max: Just a few points... You stated below that you don't agree that most HR departments are there for the underperformer. While I don't believe that HR...
Fred: That is your name isn't it? (grin) ... Who is Doug Khalish? I know "David" "Kalish" and a Doug Max. But, who in the world is Doug Khalish? (grin) ......
... I don't "disagree" with John in principal. But, reality and principal do not always meet. I also question some of his assumptions. For instance, his...
... Yes, many HR policies, programs and processes focus on underperformers............trying to get rid of them safely and expeditiously. Trying to push...
Mercy me. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa. I confused Dave Khalish with Doug Max and created Doug Khalish. Oh well, I suppose there's a Dave Max...
... I suspect (having seen John speak at a conference we both were presenting at), that John's Utopia has far less to do with what he sees HR doing, and much...
... Depends on the meaning of "true", the inclusion of which makes the question pretty meaningless. But, you can do some interesting stuff accounting wise, and...
It is not uncommon for HR depts to generate profit by selling services. Whether it is selling external services like Training (Disney) or surplus recruits...
Dr John Sullivan
johns@...
Jan 5, 2005 11:29 am
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Quote: Amazing things are possible... if you don't listen to the whiners that say... it can't be done. HR at big firms has changed dramatically during the...
30 some years ago, before ATMs, and recognizing that we, at the world's biggest bank, were training tellers for other banks, we created a ... Teller Training...
If I am an attorney representing a charging party against her employer for a fragrant case of sexual harassment, what incentives do I have to help my client by...
