I have a problem with metric of one of the Aeneas' lines. It seems to me that there is something wrong with this line: tum celerare fugam patriaeque excedere...
Vahido Soleimano ceterisqve sodalibvs salvtem plvrimam Akhilleys dicit. Et prior littera < V > et altera, in verbo < svavis > , proprie semivocales svnt. ...
I don't know much about the phonetic of ancient latin, but I think I know (i am not quite so sure) that there is no such alphabet like "v" in ancient latin,...
There's no way for the u to be a V. It already is one. In the 1st cent AD (Virgil's time) the V and U are the same letter. It can't be a consonant here because...
On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 23:51:11 +0200, Vahid Soleimani <vahidms@...> ... The romans did not differ between "v" and "u". They used "V" for both the vowel and...
Johan Winge
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Jul 7, 2006 4:32 pm
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... I know (i am not quite so sure) that there is no such alphabet like "v" in ancient latin, they use "u" for the pronunciation of "v". I don't think you are...
salvete! I can't figure out the metre of this line either, although my copy of the aeneid has "patriaque" instead of "patriaeque", which only adds to my...
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Jul 7, 2006 8:21 pm
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salve! patriaque/patriaeque: 'muta cum liquida', ie. t, c, p ect before l or r makes a short syllable. partiaeque excedere: one of the two e-s is not...
I think you are wrong about this case, because the metric of this verse is hexameter and if we take your word it wrecks the metric. Thanks. Vahid Soleimani ...
I this verse I don't know why gradiens is in genetive. at Venus obscura gradientis aere saepsit /Aeneid I:411 I've got another version of Aeneid in which...
"Gradientis" -- Present active participles, third declension, nom / accusative plural can be either "-ntes" OR '"-ntis." Which of the two versions you have is...
As a matter of fact I found your explanation, about the first line, somewhat not enough (sorry for my rudeness) the thing that is complicated here is why it...
I thought your question was "why is gradientis in the genitive" and my answer was, it isn't, it's the accusative Direct Object of the verb "saepsit". Also,...
Rebeccae ceterisqve sodalibvs salvtem plvrimam Akhilleys dicit. Perperam, Rebecca, scripsisti. Aeris nomen mascvlini est generis et aliqvando, vt Graeci...
u neben einem Vokal (beziehungsweise, in grafisch stark modernisierten Texten, v) wird nicht als [v] wie w in dt. Wein = [van], sondern als [w] wie w in...
I think it was a couple of weeks ago that I read an email about Act 28:16. I have found an example which I guess is similar to that problem. In Cassel's...
Friends: The 'u' followed by 's', i.e. 'su', can function as /sw/ in Suecia (sometimes written Svecia) and /su/ in suus, sua, suum. In order to keep Vergil's...
huic is monosyllabic or just made up of two syllables? Thank you Vahid Soleimnai ... How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call...
I wish to know whether elision can occur at the end of one line and beginning of the next one. Thanks for your attention. Vahid Soleimani ... Groups are...
Is it really necessary? There are some lines in Aeneid in which elision has not occured. Thank you Vahid Soleimani ... Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make...
I'm not sure what you're asking here, Vadim. Are you talking about elision in general or at the ends of lines? In either case, the elision represents the way...
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:35:31 +0200, Vahid Soleimani <vahidms@...> ... Indeed, there are instances where elision is suppressed within a line, for example...
Johan Winge
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Jul 25, 2006 12:18 pm
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Thanks for your very invaluable help. I still think that elision is necessary within a line, though your quotation from Aeneid says the opposite, excuse my...
