I have just been thrown off another ... I must give you credit for being able to drink the poison. So you must be able to understand the instructions that...
joe baxter
joseph@...
Jan 1, 1999 9:29 am
4370
... Except that Y'shua didn't say that handling snakes and drinking poison nonsense. Probably a 3rd century North African named Ariston. Jack -- ...
Jack Kilmon
jkilmon@...
Jan 1, 1999 10:31 am
4371
... Don't know much about Ariston (of Chios?) but Mark 16:17 says: "These are the signs that will be associated with believers: . . . they will pick up snakes...
joe baxter
joseph@...
Jan 1, 1999 5:21 pm
4372
Joe wrote: but Mark 16:17 says: "These are the signs that will be associated with believers: . . . they will pick up snakes in their hands, and be unharmed...
Paul Miller
pm@...
Jan 1, 1999 5:38 pm
4373
... snipped Assuming the authenticity? Please--- there is absolutely no early manuscript evidence for these texts at all. There is simply no way this saying...
Jim West
jwest@...
Jan 1, 1999 5:47 pm
4374
... Why do you think Ariston was a 3d cen. North African rather than a late first century contemporary of Papias? Stephen Carlson -- Stephen C. Carlson...
Stephen C. Carlson
scarlson@...
Jan 1, 1999 5:50 pm
4375
... I've just read J.P. Meier's chapter on Josephus in A Marginal Jew: Vol. one, and he very well disposes of this idea. Josephus was "very likely" in ...
Bob Schacht
Robert.Schacht@...
Jan 1, 1999 6:30 pm
4376
... I am sure that the various endings of Mark in the textual witnesses has been discussed before. I think there is a consensus that not only did Jesus NOT...
Jack Kilmon
jkilmon@...
Jan 1, 1999 6:32 pm
4377
... Simple, Stephen. Because I hadn't had my morning coffee yet and was thinking about another major textual redaction (g). I am only on my second now, but by...
Jack Kilmon
jkilmon@...
Jan 1, 1999 6:46 pm
4378
... Hmm - crushed nuts. Not an inappropriate end, I would say. Sort of like those idiots who literally made themselves "eunuchs for the sake of heaven"?...
Mike Grondin
mgrondin@...
Jan 1, 1999 6:56 pm
4379
... Wasn't Origen wunna dem nuts that cut his thingy off? On a more serious note, I wonder just how many major doctrinal practices and rituals throughout the...
Jack Kilmon
jkilmon@...
Jan 1, 1999 7:04 pm
4380
... [... snip ... ] ... What does Meier know that you or I don't Bob? Equally probable is that "Luke" and Josephus knew directly what they're reporting on,...
Tom Simms
tsimms@...
Jan 1, 1999 9:13 pm
4381
On Fri, 01 Jan 1999 13:25:49 -0600, jkilmon@... writes: [... Snip ...] ... Seriously too, Jack, just about double what the Rabbis added to the very...
Tom Simms
tsimms@...
Jan 1, 1999 9:13 pm
4382
Mark 16:17 says: "These are ... Jack said: I think there is a consensus that not only ... Your argument that Mark did not record the ending of GMark is...
joe baxter
joseph@...
Jan 2, 1999 3:58 am
4383
Happy New Year All, I always figure that talk of snake handling and drinking of poison was symbolic. Kind of Steering clear of the Serpent and the poison of...
Karen Surface
kcsjrt@...
Jan 2, 1999 4:44 am
4384
Dear Crosstalkers and GThomas Egroupers, I have now completely overhauled my too-long neglected web page. Any feedback on my redone pages would be greatly...
Andrew Bernhard
cabern@...
Jan 2, 1999 6:25 am
4385
... Sorry, the URL for the text of the Greek fragments is: http://members.xoom.com/abernhar/4gostom/grkeng/index.html...
Andrew Bernhard
cabern@...
Jan 2, 1999 6:34 am
4386
I wrote:. ... Galilean--for ... The rebellion of Judas the Galilean marked the beginning of the troubles in Galilee and in Judea generally. This agitation was...
INTERPRES
sammer@...
Jan 2, 1999 9:40 am
4387
Jim West responded to my... ... Is there any way to locate Deuteronomy in historical time? Perhaps the prophecy in Dt28:68 about Jews being brought back to...
Ian Hutchesson
mc2499@...
Jan 2, 1999 11:16 pm
4388
... I believe he had earlier posted something about the absence of the Scapegoat in Deuteronomy. In re that observation, crosstalkers might be interested in ...
Philip B. Lewis
Phil@...
Jan 3, 1999 4:47 am
4389
It often surprises me that NT scholars are not more conversant with OT issues. Take Source criticism: surely this is a domain where the methods and theories...
Bob Schacht
Robert.Schacht@...
Jan 3, 1999 6:47 am
4390
... [... snip ... noted as an exemplar of a lecture I might have heard in one of Rev. Dr. Ebbut's lectures in RK at Mount Allison in the late 40's when he was...
Tom Simms
tsimms@...
Jan 3, 1999 1:25 pm
4391
... I would only say that you might want to qualify this a bit by adding "some" or maybe even "many". As it is you suggest that NO NT scholars are conversant...
Jim West
jwest@...
Jan 3, 1999 1:53 pm
4392
Dear all, My English unfortunately is not very well, but I hope that you will understand me. Here in Belgrade I can't find so much *historical* studies about ...
Aleksandar Milanovic
amilanov@...
Jan 3, 1999 5:26 pm
4393
... Alexander For starters, try the "introduction" sections of each of the pastorals found at the URL below. http://www.bible.org/docs/nt/ntbooks.htm Yours, ...
Jeffrey B. Gibson
jgibson000@...
Jan 3, 1999 5:58 pm
4394
On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 18:20:05 +0100, Aleksandar Milanovic ... --snip-- Aleksandar, You'll get better advice regarding the location of NT sources on the net from...
R. Jeffrey Grace
rjgrace@...
Jan 3, 1999 7:16 pm
4395
... I was arguing that the Pentateuch was not a unified body in the times of the DSS: each book circulated separately. Therefore the notion of the book of ...
Ian Hutchesson
mc2499@...
Jan 3, 1999 7:51 pm
4396
... Jim, Of course, you are quite right. I certainly did not mean to imply that *NO* NT scholars were conversant with OT source criticism. Its just that I am ...
Bob Schacht
Robert.Schacht@...
Jan 3, 1999 9:25 pm
4397
I wasnt denying the usefulness of source criticism. I was merely denying that the old JEDP theory is virtually dead among many OT scholars. And the Pentateuch...
Jim West
jwest@...
Jan 3, 1999 10:13 pm
4398
... [...snip...] ... I would say OT source criticism has influenced NT source critical to some extent, especially about a hundred years ago. For example, the...