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45930
... Alternative proposal for that nominal ablaut, independent of other IE phenomena: Piotr observes that the connecting vowel -i- in composites can be...
tgpedersen
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Sep 1, 2006
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45931
... All right, I'm back. The central problems are as follow: (1) The completely divergent development of the present-tense *-éje- in Baltic (*-a~-) and Slavic...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Sep 3, 2006
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45932
... Here's another take: The *-je/o- extension appears just before the endings. It is a type of thematic ending. Suppose (Schmalstieg) the original verbal...
tgpedersen
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45933
At 12:02:36 PM on Wednesday, August 30, 2006, tgpedersen ... [...] ... I haven't looked at that in 20 years. Can you give a specific reference to something in...
Brian M. Scott
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Sep 4, 2006
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45934
At 5:46:37 AM on Wednesday, August 30, 2006, tgpedersen ... Whether it is or not, it isn't *evidence* of anything except the mental processes of the reasoner. ...
Brian M. Scott
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Sep 4, 2006
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45935
... I never understood why you and Piotr wanted me to prove a definition. ... I'm afraid all the practical experience I have with this is from trying to build...
tgpedersen
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Sep 4, 2006
6:31 am
45936
... Voiced too, cf. OCS 1st and 3rd pl. How's this different from the assumption of a fully thematic conjugation, except that you add an intermediate stage...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Sep 4, 2006
6:36 am
45937
... Me neither. Chapter I "Meaningful Situations", "Situation Semantics", p. 19. Torsten...
tgpedersen
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Sep 4, 2006
6:39 am
45938
... Nono. Here's the original process: ChSl. mogU moz^e moz^e mogomU moz^ete mogõ ... Jasonoff posits the existence of an extended present stem in -i- in...
tgpedersen
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Sep 4, 2006
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45939
At 2:30:40 AM on Monday, September 4, 2006, tgpedersen ... We don't. You didn't offer a definition; you made a claim about languages. We wanted you to supply...
Brian M. Scott
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Sep 4, 2006
8:57 am
45940
... What has this got to do with the *-je/o- suffix in present stems or with semithematic conjugations? The above forms are those of the asigmatic aorist,...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Sep 4, 2006
11:07 am
45941
... I don't get it. What is this claim about languages you think I made? Torsten...
tgpedersen
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Sep 4, 2006
11:54 am
45942
... Thank you for that informtion. Are there differences between the outcomes of *-ih- and *-éi- ? Torsten...
tgpedersen
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Sep 4, 2006
11:55 am
45943
... I was imagining something like i-extended present stem (à la Jasonoff) -> recategorisation (à la id.) as semithematic mi- conjugation -> recategorisation...
tgpedersen
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Sep 4, 2006
12:00 pm
45944
... I've never heard of the rule for such a retraction. Hirt's Law is about retraction to a pre-tonic nucleus flanked by a (non-vocalized) laryngeal, and here...
Sergejus Tarasovas
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Sep 4, 2006
12:21 pm
45945
... Laryngeal insertion by analogy (after verbs in *-ah2- and *-eh1-) is always an option, but I was toying with the idea that the result of the early...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Sep 4, 2006
1:28 pm
45946
... vr.ddhied ... , ... I see, but the whole point of Illic^-Svityc^, Kortlandt and their followers is that it was the segmental laryngeal itself, not its ...
Sergejus Tarasovas
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Sep 4, 2006
1:49 pm
45947
... Yes, at least for Lithuanian, where *-ei- would have given -ie-, not -y-. Piotr...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Sep 4, 2006
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45948
... ... or remained intact (unless you follow those who state that every originally stresed *-éi- has been monophthongized in East Baltic, even though the...
Sergejus Tarasovas
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Sep 4, 2006
2:26 pm
45949
... I have yet to see a consonant that attracts the ictus by itself rather than indirectly, through the effect it has on the neighbouring vowel. Kortlandt...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Sep 4, 2006
3:03 pm
45950
... Sorry, I meant between *-ih- and *-íe- (which is what I had proposed). Torsten...
tgpedersen
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Sep 4, 2006
3:15 pm
45951
... Specifically, in the case of English, this claim from ... And originally that meant: it rained, then it rained; he rode, then he rode. Plurality of rains...
Brian M. Scott
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Sep 4, 2006
3:31 pm
45952
... rather ... vowel. What about the well-known Paradebeispiel *keh2uló- (Gr. kaulós 'stem') > *kahuló- > (Hirt) *káhulo- > Lith. káulas (1), Latv. kau~ls...
Sergejus Tarasovas
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Sep 4, 2006
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45953
... OK, now I see what you are objecting to: it's not the idea that iterative verbs refer to several consecutive occasions, but the claim that iterative is the...
tgpedersen
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Sep 4, 2006
4:27 pm
45954
... Precisely. Brian...
Brian M. Scott
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Sep 4, 2006
4:50 pm
45955
... From: tgpedersen<mailto:tgpedersen@...> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:cybalist@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 11:16 AM ...
Patrick Ryan
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Sep 4, 2006
5:21 pm
45956
... It's not in Pokorny, if that's what you mean, no. But since I suspect that *bheH(i)- (I think I'll amend it to) is manifested in both Pokorny *bho:i- :...
tgpedersen
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Sep 4, 2006
6:31 pm
45957
... Jasonoff handles it something like this: Of many roots, different languages have either e-, o-, or zero-grade of the root in the present stem, *therefore*...
tgpedersen
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Sep 4, 2006
11:39 pm
45958
... From: tgpedersen<mailto:tgpedersen@...> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:cybalist@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 1:24 PM ...
Patrick Ryan
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Sep 5, 2006
12:01 am
45959
... and *bhen "schlagen, verwunden" ... Pokorny *bhe:-, *bho:- "wärmen, rösten" and *bhok- "flammen, brennen" -> Latin focus and -> (TP) Nordwestblock in...
tgpedersen
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