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46233
... To repeat myself, root "constraints" are only tendencies, not rigid inviolable rules. There are 9 fairly certain roots of the form DeD in PIE: *bed to...
P&G
petegray
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Oct 1, 2006
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46234
... The classic puzzle, of course, is why English shows so few signs (or no signs) of a Celtic substrate. The classic answer used to be that the Celts were...
P&G
petegray
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46235
... That should go almost without saying, especially if the constraint was the consequence of some special phonetic properties of pre-PIE rather tha PIE itself...
Piotr Gasiorowski
caraculiambro
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Oct 1, 2006
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46236
... A phoneme like *NgW (or is it *n,W ?) has a lot of interesting properties. It's [+nasal, +velar, +labial] which is nice for something one wants to use for...
tgpedersen
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Oct 1, 2006
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46237
... Or the reduplicated root arose at a time where it was still either *'gWí-'gW-a- (preglottalized) -> *'gW-íh3w-a- or *NgWí-NgW-a- (prenasalized) ->...
tgpedersen
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46238
correction PPIE *-áNgW -> PIE *-óh3 (h3 = [-nasal, +velar, +labial]) PPIE *-aNgWí -> PIE *-mí (m = [+nasal, -velar, +labial]) Torsten...
tgpedersen
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46239
... From: Patrick Ryan<mailto:proto-language@...> To: Cybalist<mailto:cybalist@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 4:56 PM Subject: Fw: [tied]...
Patrick Ryan
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Oct 1, 2006
11:23 pm
46240
... See Petr's posting, quoting the same data: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/46099 and my answer: ...
Piotr Gasiorowski
caraculiambro
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46241
... From: Piotr Gasiorowski<mailto:gpiotr@...> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:cybalist@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 10:20 PM...
Patrick Ryan
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Oct 2, 2006
4:10 am
46242
... No. I certainly wouldn't dispute them myself. In fact, just out of curiosity I have managed to replicate them with satisfactory accuracy using recordings...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Oct 2, 2006
5:17 am
46243
... cf. Finnish, Estonian 1sg -n (< *-m), 1pl -me Finnish 2sg -t, Estonian 2sg -d, both 2pl -te Finnish no, nyt, Estonian nüüd "now" Torsten...
tgpedersen
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Oct 2, 2006
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46244
BUMP Anyone? Bueller? Anyone? ... of 'right ... *dhe ... to ... the...
A.
xthanex
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Oct 2, 2006
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46245
... If you want a short answer, they don't. Skt. dHarma(n)- is derived from dHarati 'hold, support', which contains PIE *dHer-. The Gk. stem tHemist- (with a...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Oct 2, 2006
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46246
... From: Piotr Gasiorowski<mailto:gpiotr@...> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:cybalist@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 12:18 AM...
Patrick Ryan
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46247
... From: Piotr Gasiorowski<mailto:gpiotr@...> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:cybalist@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 8:42...
Patrick Ryan
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46248
... For English, "voiced obstruent" would be better. English vowels are longest before voiced fricatives, then before voiced stops. If you decide to experiment...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Oct 2, 2006
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46249
... From: Patrick Ryan<mailto:proto-language@...> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:cybalist@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 12:35 PM ...
Patrick Ryan
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46250
Piotr, My thanks for your knowledgable input and for sorting this out for me! Regards, Aydan ... the ... to ... suffixed ... share ... from ... and...
A.
xthanex
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Oct 2, 2006
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46251
... Yes. "Final" means "word-final" (not necessarily in a monosyllable, but also in words like <degree> or <guffaw>. Intervocalic consonants affect the...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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46252
At 4:47:39 PM on Monday, October 2, 2006, Piotr Gasiorowski ... Patrick said 'not stressed', so I assume that he's using one of the U.S. pronunciations of...
Brian M. Scott
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46253
... From: Piotr Gasiorowski<mailto:gpiotr@...> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:cybalist@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 3:47 PM ...
Patrick Ryan
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Oct 2, 2006
10:13 pm
46254
... Oops, I overlooked the "not stressed" part. Of course, this is one of the well-known accentual differences between UK and US English (only the latter is...
Piotr Gasiorowski
caraculiambro
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Oct 2, 2006
10:17 pm
46255
... That's the whole problem. In Wiik's data sets, the alternative "final or + voiced C" really means "+ voiced C" for inherently short vowels, since they...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Oct 2, 2006
10:21 pm
46256
... Which is what I proposed in my reply to Petr, didn't I? Piotr...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Oct 2, 2006
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46257
... From: Piotr Gasiorowski<mailto:gpiotr@...> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:cybalist@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 5:19 PM ...
Patrick Ryan
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Oct 2, 2006
10:37 pm
46258
The Hittite conjugations run like this in the present mi-conjugation, sg 1 -mi (< *-n,W-i) 2 -si 3 -zi hi-conjugation, sg 1 -xi 2 -ti (< *-tx-i) 3 -i both, pl ...
tgpedersen
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Oct 2, 2006
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46259
correction (sigh!) ... 3sg pret. hi-conjugation. Torsten...
tgpedersen
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Oct 3, 2006
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46260
... From: Piotr Gasiorowski<mailto:gpiotr@...> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com<mailto:cybalist@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 5:13 PM ...
Patrick Ryan
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Oct 3, 2006
3:49 am
46261
... Not really. In the book, and generally in phonetic terminology, the default interpretation of "final" means "word-final", not "syllable final". I admit,...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Oct 3, 2006
6:08 am
46262
... I meant the following passage, suggesting that the pre-sonorant quantity was average and therefore "normal". ... But this is hardly a useful standard...
Piotr Gasiorowski
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Oct 3, 2006
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