... The text, of course, provides no justification for this interpretation. "... the disciples did not know that it was Jesus. Therefore Jesus said TO THEM...
For what it is worth, I have suggested that the BD was to Jesus as Benjamin was to Joseph either in fact or in the mind of the evangelist. I am neither saying...
... From: "Bill Bullin" <bill.bullin@...> To: <johannine_literature@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 7:26 PM Subject: [John_Lit] The...
fmmccoy
FMMCCOY@...
Jun 3, 2004 7:03 pm
4754
Forgive me, but my reading of Horace's /Saturnalia, II.8.20ff /suggests that the host and master of that feast Nasidienus was seated in the middle of that ...
On 6/3/04 2:07 PM, "johannine_literature@yahoogroups.com" ... Dear Frank, I am usually silent on this list since I cannot match the competence of many of those...
... There's an even bigger problem, isn't there? And that's the legitimacy of the assumption that even should there have been formal rules for "seating" at...
... Hello Frank, I will have to do a bit of spadework before I can adequately respond to this very interesting line of inquiry. I was certainly working with...
I usually find myself agreeing with James in many instances, however, I too have some severe reservations as to James being the BD. :-( If one believes that...
Joe Gagne
joegagne@...
Jun 4, 2004 1:59 pm
4759
Bravo, Jeffrey, I agree with you, and wonder how this could be used to prove anything where the Jewish background would certainly not invoke Roman customs. ......
Joe Gagne
joegagne@...
Jun 4, 2004 2:04 pm
4760
... From: "Q Bee" <artforms@...> To: <johannine_literature@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 4:34 PM Subject: Re: [John_Lit] Digest...
fmmccoy
FMMCCOY@...
Jun 5, 2004 11:13 pm
4761
... From: "Joe Gagne" <joegagne@...> To: <johannine_literature@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [John_Lit] Digest...
fmmccoy
FMMCCOY@...
Jun 5, 2004 11:36 pm
4762
On 6/6/04 9:07 AM, "johannine_literature@yahoogroups.com" ... It is also not made clear whether Jesus asks his mother to look at her son upon the cross as he...
On 6/6/04 9:07 AM, "johannine_literature@yahoogroups.com" ... Ooops! A correction need to be made for clarity... ... IF the designation of 'gardener' means...
On 6/6/04 9:07 AM, "johannine_literature@yahoogroups.com" ... Dear Frank, ... Are you certain that Jesus is asking his mother to look at her 'son' or that he...
I would like to address a couple of issues relevant to this discussion. 1. Mary Magdala's failure to recognize Jesus. Considered from the Jewish perspective...
In a message dated 6/6/2004 9:09:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, ... I guess this explains the logic of Jesus' command "touch me not", since Mary was (of course)...
Maluflen@...
Jun 7, 2004 10:34 am
4767
If James wrote the book of James, and he is the same James that is in Acts, I have difficulty in accepting James as the author of FG. I am presenting a paper...
Joe Gagne
joegagne@...
Jun 9, 2004 3:52 am
4768
... Your objection is a fine example of argumentum ad ignorantiam. The reply to your position is that Galilean Jews at the celebration of a pre-eminently ...
... Actually, if you read what I actually wrote, I made no such claim. All I did was to wonder out loud whether there were any good grounds for assuming that...
... Dear Bill, In John 20:4-7 the younger BD out runs the elder Peter arrive at the tomb first, then steps aside to allow Peter to enter and discover the...
... Here is what you actually said: "There's an even bigger problem, isn't there? And that's the legitimacy of the assumption that even should there have been...
... Questioning the legitimacy of the assumption is not the same thing as, to use your words regarding what I reputedly was up to, "claim[ing] there is...
... This is implicit in your last two posts. Your original post that sparked this discussion did not make this clear that you have not read the corpus of...
... Aren't you now equivocating by switching the issue now to whether Galilean Jews would have **known** the rules (assuming they existed), when the main...
... Are you speaking of the corpus in Latin by Latin authors, or material in Hebrew and Greek by Jewish authors? ... Unsatisfactory? No. Just not conclusive...
On 6/10/04 3:55 PM, "johannine_literature@yahoogroups.com" ... Well, that's a stretch. Is there really any reason to think that the linguistics are that far...
Dear Elaine Thank you for these interesting notes. The twists and turns of status reversals has deep antecedents in Hebrew scripture. Certainly the Last Supper...
... assumption that Galilean Jews would have known these rules. Why? What is your proof that this is untenable? ... now to whether Galilean Jews would have...
