Well ask your treasury lawyer friends for the statue/law/regulation that make a state citizen fruits of their labor taxable income? ... From: LP_patriot2002...
Ken Grubaugh
kkkkgrub@...
Aug 1, 2005 1:29 pm
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"Every man has a natural right to the fruits of his own labor, as generally admitted; and no other person can rightfully deprive him of those fruits, and...
Ken Grubaugh
kkkkgrub@...
Aug 1, 2005 1:29 pm
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Ed, how can anyone take you seriously if you refuse to use spell check? Again, please begin using spell check. p.s. Section 63 does not say that. Do you have...
Oh, I sure wish it were as simple as that!!! First of all, the Thirteenth Amendment doesn't deal with the issues of political slavery nor tax slavery. Also,...
Again Ron an answer with no substance. My knowledge of tax law probably isn't as in depth as yours. Funny how I came to a place where I can COMPREHEND with...
If the 861 source evidence is so stupid. Why was it part of the defense evidence for Joe Banister? It hasn't happened yet. I do believe that Larken will win...
Lp. When I say that the case has nothing to do with the income of the average American. I am not saying that 861 has nothing to do with the income of the...
Lp, you can't equate the number of people facing prison to how much truth there is in a subject. If that be the case. You have any idea how many people got...
Yea, well; Why don't you ASK those 'lawyer friends' if those REGS should be FOLLOWED ?????? And WHO should follow them ????? Why don't you ask them the PURPOSE...
Brian, The DEFINITIONS make perfect sense when you understand WHO or WHAT is the PERSON defined in 26 USC 7701. 1) Person The term "person" shall be construed...
Good, Ron. Maybe now we're getting 'clear' ? So, why are those regs STILL there ???? What purpose could they be used for ? Or are you saying they should not...
On Behalf Of LP_patriot2002 And some of my best friends are the Treasury lawyers who write those pesky regs that aren't approved by Congress. And all of them...
Dr. Tom
ironman@...
Aug 1, 2005 1:34 pm
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... No. ... No. ... No. ... Yes, a tax on incomes from "PROPERTY". Taxes on other kinds of income (such as wages and salaries) would be constitutional without...
You are too arrogant in your mislleading Dr. Tom. You purposefully have ignored or misused both subsections of IRC 7806, ignored several key Supreme Court...
On Behalf Of Ronald L. Weston 1.861-8 and 8T have absolutely no backing, nor are they interpretive. Ok, if they are NOT interpretive regulations, then what...
Dr. Tom
ironman@...
Aug 1, 2005 1:37 pm
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Really ?? Point it out then. I only see 'the TAXPAYER', mentioned! I think that would be the ONE that OWES the tax. ... Your answer is proven wrong Frank, and...
Brian said : Your labor COST you nothing to obtain ... you literally did not pay for your own labor. MY RESPONSE :::::::: It COSTED me my time and effort by...
Your answer is proven wrong Frank, and right in 1.861-8 itself. FRANK wrote: Yes, Ron; There IS taxable income from sources within U.S. Only when received by...
Dr. Tom
ironman@...
Aug 1, 2005 1:38 pm
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... First, is section 911 even listed in your precious list under 26 CFR 1.861-8(f)? Oh yeah, it's not. Doesn't that mean that you don't have to calculate...
... Then you are irrelevant. The government has the power to tax. Saying that you will "NEVER concede that power" to the government is the same as saying that...
It cost time. I can never regain that time. It is lost forever. Working cost me time with my family. Time with my books. Time with my friends. I have a limited...
Christopher Hansen
sovereign@...
Aug 1, 2005 1:40 pm
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... Very good. Now where does this section of the IRC say anything about any particular kind of income or source of income being "taxable"? All it says is that...
The only irrelevant ones are those that are willing to compromise on principle. Anyone that concedes that federal gummint has the right to directly reach into...
Bart, At this point in time, deciding what kind of government we have, if at all is irrelevant. During the revolution we had virtually NO GOVERNMENT. The...
Prove it. You've made the claim. He who claims the affirmative has the burden of proof. What facts and evidence to support those do you have for your claim...
As I replied to Dr. Tom: Now let me see, Section 79 is a section that refers to 861. Lets see how: There it is, in IRC 79(d)(3)(B)(iv): (B) Exclusion of ...
... Of course, that opinion had NOTHING to do with taxation, but was addressing slavery. "The question, whether the slave trade is prohibited by the law of ...
Read the Motions of Bannister's defense team. They did not rely on the 861 argument. They used code sections as placers or locators only, then went to...
Like the Supreme Court stated "everyone is responsible for knowing the law". Without knowing what these terms mean in the tax laws you do not know the law. Use...
