Please can anyone identify an infuriatingly elusive quote in which someone observed that it was a fine sight to see "middle aged matrons skittishly accepting...
Monica, as I said to a local paper journalist who asked me to comment on it - another cynical exploitation of 'Alice' and it says more about the twisted idiot...
Keith Wright
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Jul 6, 2004 1:20 pm
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Sounds like this guy has some serious issues... how many people feel the need to seek revenge (his words) against a book they hated as a child?! ~ Sarah ...
Oh dear. Is this what I can look forward to? I would hope that the author's "research" is merely part of the fabrication of his tale. After all, it's fairly...
You can expect it if you make claims that don't fit the facts or put forward your theories as facts when you have no actual facts that you can substantiate. I...
Keith Wright
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Jul 8, 2004 6:24 pm
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"monicaedinger" <monicaedinger@...> sent a reference to an article at ... that reports what sounds a stupid, exploitative novel, "The Looking Glass ...
Ruth Berman
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Jul 8, 2004 7:48 pm
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Ruth, yes, that was my concern having had dealings with the press I know how they pick up on the sensational aspects even at the expense of the message! I did...
Keith Wright
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Jul 8, 2004 7:58 pm
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... reporter] in my 1st e mail on the subject. However, it seems unlikely that he has been misquoted on his hatred of 'Alice' as even a pressman would have...
Ruth Berman
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Jul 8, 2004 8:39 pm
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... Why, I wonder, do we have this need to believe that there was a 'real Alice' at all, when there's no evidence that Alice Liddell and the fictional 'Alice'...
I agree that the argument that says Alice Liddell is not the 'real Alice' is fatally flawed. The tale was told to Alice Liddell and it was based upon her life...
Keith Wright
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Jul 9, 2004 12:53 pm
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... A good question. On the whole, I agree with what Arne said in his reply to your post. The legend of the telling of the story to Alice and her sisters and ...
Having recently been in touch with the lady who did the voiceover for Lucien Desar,I've just uploaded a photo on <aliceontheweb> which can be seen in a File . ...
... Underground was first written, so she didn't exist then either. > It's a point that's been made before -- but it is untrue to say EITHER that Alice Liddell...
Ruth Berman
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Jul 14, 2004 6:18 pm
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What it means to say that that Alice Liddell is or isn't the same as Alice in the story is one of those "it depends what you mean by 'is'" questions. If what's...
Ruth Berman
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Jul 14, 2004 7:09 pm
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... Alice ... questions. ... identical" -- ... some ... in-between ... snip ... "ALICE" LIDDELL vs DREAMCHILD So, sometimes Alice Liddell is "Alice", and...
Without taking any side can I just ask - when Dodgson wrote to Clement Scott "is the little 'Beauty -without- the -Beast' in 'My Darlings Three' a REAL...
Karoline Leach
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Jul 16, 2004 10:54 am
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Hi Karoline - my own personal opinion - as you probably know - is that the story itself - Alice Underground - was somewhat of a catharsis for Carroll. But as...
... facts as we know them really support this commonly held idea? Or do they suggest something more complex and less easily defined? ... One or two facts...
... Clement Scott "is the little 'Beauty -without- the -Beast' in 'My Darlings Three' a REAL child or as dreamlike as MY little heroine" -- what did he...
Mike, I don't see anything odd about CLD describing his story as interminable. It doesn't mean he was bored with it just that it went on longer than the other...
Keith Wright
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Jul 16, 2004 1:43 pm
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"Jim Buch" <jbuch@...> ... out to be just my opinion. ... There's a bit more substantiation than that available. In later years, in his article about...
Ruth Berman
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Jul 16, 2004 2:07 pm
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... Keith is spot on here. Speaking as someone who's been working on my Alice book for over a year, and with approximately another year and a half to go, it...
I'm not really saying it was 'odd' to describe the story as interminable - just that it injects a bit of realism into an area that can get very soft-focus and...
Mike, as to realism I agree the three girls probably gave him ideas which he put into the story - as he is said to have done with other stories to other ...
Keith Wright
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Jul 17, 2004 5:01 pm
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I don't think he could have been singing Miss Jones to them, because according to his diary (as I understand it) that was not written until his trip to Croft...
... he could not terminate it ... because the children wanted to hear more and more of it. And I can't see any reason why that day was anything but pleasant...