Dear List members, Although I'm very quiet on this list, I do read the posts with great interest, am mourning the loss of Kate whom I feel I knew, and rarely...
HI! I am a new member to the list - and producer of the Alice in Wonderland Puppet Festival! "Story of an Alice puppet show" I've been interested in the Alice...
I notice that since my period of silence on the list there have been very many new members. I'm just wondering if any of the new members have any information,...
John, as Tennyson said along similar lines 'why do they think I have no imagination of my own' - same applies here! Where's the evidence that CLD copied...
Hi, It seems that Grandeville influenced many British illustrators of the time (notably in /Punch/), and Tenniel may have been one of them. But Tenniel is not...
I think there may some confusion about the relationship between an illustrator & an author, even one so fastidious as LC. LC liked to closely supervise his...
John, Bryan is having trouble posting so has asked me to post this on the site. From Bryan Talbot, I think therešs an influence on Tenniel. The specific...
... Sorry, not Australia but New Zealand, so unfortunately we won't have the opportunity to meet up - unless you get the opportunity to do a book-signing in...
Hi Keith! CLD could not possibly have met with Grandville. I never said he did. Tennyson, like TS Elliot and George Bush - and CLD was being economical with...
John, I never said that you stated that the two met but the implication for someone who knows no better was that they did. I've never found Tennyson to be...
Hi Keith, I suggest you compare the Grandville illustrations that I and others have mentioned with those used in the Alice books. i have never used the word...
John, the only thing that makes me less confident is that Wakeling agrees with me. I must admit that shakes my belief that you are wrong. Why on earth do you...
By the way Bryan (and anyone else interested in illustration in general), if you don't know about it, I must recommend a site called bibliodyssey, it's not...
... Hi Keith, I don't even accept your point re cats. Indeed there are whole books devoted to feline art in which it can be clearly seen that influences can...
John, you're reading too much into similarities which are just coincidences. Grandville was never mentioned in CLD's diaries. Stubbs could not draw a horse for...
Hi, While I don't want to comment on the connection or lack thereof between LC, JT, or Granville, I would like to do so regarding the ad hominem that is being ...
Who on earth was it who said this list is getting boring!!??. Keith it is not just I who have noted the very close correspondences between some of Grandville's...
John, yes, but to put a charge of plagerism you need much stronger evidence than you have produced. If CLD was alive right now both you and Fernando would be...
Whilst I don't want to sound too conciliatory towards you I think you do sometimes miss the point. The popularity of the Alice books does not depend upon the...
... Funny you should say that Keith....... Two things. First I took four Grandville illustrations and showed them to a dozen people involved in various...
Plagiarism!!?? All I'm trying to do is to develop an understanding of the many things that influenced the development of a series of works that in there turn...
... Keith, Another point to your approach to lewis Carroll. You want to retain your image of Lewis Carroll (by the way I accept your challenge!) that's fine....
John, it could be they knew where your interests were and so identified with you rather than the illustrations. I don't know what you mean by professional...
There seems to be an issue of plagiarism involved in this discussion of artists influencing each other. Plagiarism in the visual arts means literally copying,...
John, since even those people who knew CLD did not understand what he was about then I sense you are doomed to failure in your quest. After 100+ years the...
Hello all of you who live in the New York area! This is just a note to bring to your attention the fact that Andrew Sellon, LCSNA's president, will lead a Q&A...
Announcement from the webmaster at the website formerly known as 'Looking for Lewis Carroll': The new "Looking for Lewis Carroll" website is now up and...
John, Sorry to use list space for a private matter but unsure how else to contact you - please can you email Karoline as she is having difficulty in contacting...
Hi Keith, I don't believe in imposed censorship, but I do believe in self censorship. In order to believe in imposed censorship, one would have to believe...