I was just wondering if listbot is a real MLM site or just a spamhaven. This morning I got _two_ messages from listbot.com claiming that some bogus [and...
Bernie Cosell
bernie@...
Jun 6, 2000 12:57 am
10126
Dumb question time: I was e-chatting with a colleague and I mentioned that IMO it was impolite and improper to forward a person's postings in one forum to...
Bernie Cosell
bernie@...
Jun 7, 2000 7:52 pm
10127
... I think, basically, that I agree with the "chill" aspect. When I do this, I try to make sure I don't mess with the context. Attribution depends on the...
Chuq Von Rospach
chuqui@...
Jun 7, 2000 9:07 pm
10128
Just another datapoint, but it applies. Recently, a bunch of thread responses on Slashdot (www.slashdot.org) were taken, and were going to be put into a book....
Bob McCown
rmccown@...
Jun 7, 2000 9:44 pm
10129
I have several email lists, hosted at my ISP, to which I have restricted access with a password. I use a Unix email program so I was able to add 'Approved:...
Neil
neil@...
Jun 7, 2000 11:59 pm
10130
... Interesting point. In general I don't forward without asking permission, but I also spend a lot of time on a list with closed archives. The understanding...
bmullins@..., UNEXPEC...
bmullins@...
Jun 8, 2000 3:21 pm
10131
Forwarding an informational post from one topical public forum to another related-topic forum is not considered rude, although if you wanted to be extra nice,...
Tom Neff
tneff@...
Jun 8, 2000 4:46 pm
10132
... Although you don't say so explicitly, I assume these are Majordomo lists. I recommend mentioning the name and version of the list software you're using ...
Tom Neff
tneff@...
Jun 8, 2000 5:01 pm
10133
... I asked about 'netiquette' and tried to leave aside the question of whether it was *LEGAL* to forward a message on to other forums.... not because it is an...
Bernie Cosell
bernie@...
Jun 8, 2000 5:26 pm
10134
At 6:36 AM -0700 6/8/2000, bmullins@..., ... with closed archives, that makes sense. In situations like these, I'd make these expectations explicit in...
Chuq Von Rospach
chuqui@...
Jun 8, 2000 6:18 pm
10135
... It's hard to see how it could be illegal unless your intention was to defame or harass, e.g., taking a message from someone else and reposting it in 100 ...
John R Levine
johnl@...
Jun 8, 2000 9:04 pm
10136
... since copyright remains with the author, whether it's legal to repost or not comes down to whether or not reposting falls under either an implied license...
Miles Fidelman
mfidelman@...
Jun 8, 2000 11:11 pm
10137
... And I bet that, say, Salon.com and any of their (paid) columnists might be rather put out if I replicated one of their web articles on my site or extracted...
Michelle Dick
artemis@...
Jun 8, 2000 11:45 pm
10138
... To the best of my knowledge, profit has nothing to do with fair use criteria. Please cite a credible reference that supports your contention. - murr -...
murr rhame
murr@...
Jun 9, 2000 12:16 am
10139
hi murr, u r incorrect when you state that profit has nothing to do with fair use. fair use balances 4 elements: 1 the purpose and character of the use. 2 the...
Ash
ar@...
Jun 9, 2000 4:17 am
10140
... I stand corrected. It is my understanding that non-profit use does not provide a general exemption to redistribute copyrighted material without...
murr rhame
murr@...
Jun 9, 2000 9:50 am
10141
... You're ("u r") right. I think the confusion is because many people think that you can use a copyrighted work in any way you wish as long as you,...
Roger Smith
roger@...
Jun 9, 2000 2:30 pm
10142
Michelle Dick wrote, ... So do I, but I frequently find that what I wrote for one venue needs to be tweaked slightly to suit the place where the person wants...
David W. Tamkin
dattier@...
Jun 9, 2000 3:22 pm
10143
hi roger, i also follow your point - when in doubt ask - courtesy and respect for individuals cannot hurt:) Mike Godwin (general counsel for the Electronic...
Ash
ar@...
Jun 9, 2000 6:32 pm
10144
Something folks probably ought to know about. above.net has (fairly recently, as far as I can tell), set up their networks to block any IP traffic to sites...
Chuq Von Rospach
chuqui@...
Jun 15, 2000 6:34 am
10145
... Hasn't this been the case for eons? I thought above.net was one of the very early subscribers to the RBL BGP feed. I don't believe this is anything new. ...
Russ Allbery
rra@...
Jun 15, 2000 7:54 am
10146
In message <p04320403b56e18dcc19e@[209.239.169.197]>, ... Whatsa matter Chuq? Did some of your pals who are just as obstinate as you about refusing to secure...
Ronald F. Guilmette
rfg@...
Jun 15, 2000 9:29 am
10147
Y'know, it's not often that I agree with Ron -- and I've toasted him more than once on Spam-L when I didn't. But this time I have to agree with him: there is...
Rich Kulawiec
rsk@...
Jun 15, 2000 2:53 pm
10148
... Russ is right: it has been true for a long time. As someone who now colocates at above.net, I was pretty surprised when I heard about this recently, given...
Paul Hoffman / IMC
phoffman@...
Jun 15, 2000 3:55 pm
10149
... Yes, someone from above.net popped in and let me know. It was a combination of both bigfoot and mailcity getting RBLed that made me go snoop the network...
Chuq Von Rospach
chuqui@...
Jun 15, 2000 6:15 pm
10150
... But Chuq, blocking all IPs is SUPPOSED to create problems, and gives the RBL much of its effectiveness. This is particularly true for places like iBill ...
John R Levine
johnl@...
Jun 15, 2000 8:07 pm
10151
Rich Kulawiec wrote, ... I made the same suggestion to Paul Vixie concerning contact from admins of sites that wanted to get off (by proving that they'd been...
David W. Tamkin
dattier@...
Jun 15, 2000 8:25 pm
10152
... Ya know, I get ripped here at times for not doing the mailback-validate on every piece of email in the universe -- but on *my* systems, there's always a...
Chuq Von Rospach
chuqui@...
Jun 15, 2000 9:43 pm
10153
... To be fair to Paul's position there, the spam in question would be more like mailbombing. If there were a significant public contact address for the RBL...
Russ Allbery
rra@...
Jun 15, 2000 10:10 pm
10154
... thanks! Now I remember. Yes, that's a good one. -- Chuq Von Rospach - Plaidworks Consulting (mailto:chuqui@...) Apple Mail List Gnome...
