... I think the real solutions would be XNS. See http://xns.org But it doesn't look to me like they're making any progress. Greetings, Norbert. -- Norbert...
Norbert Bollow
nb@...
May 1, 2001 8:54 am
11231
... Yes. All automatically-generated messages should be rate-limited, and there needs to be notification when the rate-limiting kicks in. For each type of...
Norbert Bollow
nb@...
May 1, 2001 9:04 am
11232
Yes, I hear you but it overlooks one important characteristic of spammers: anonymity. If you're going to "join the club" you're going to have to tell us who ...
James M Galvin
galvin@...
May 1, 2001 5:55 pm
11233
... Disclaimer: I was once Sr. Sysadmin / Postmaster at Mail.Com. I am not any more, and haven't been for a year. Mail.Com still exists...barely. They've...
Nathan J. Mehl
memory@...
May 3, 2001 3:36 am
11234
... I think you're right, unfortunately. Mail on all my systems have been clogging my queues long enoguh to start timing out and bouncing......
Chuq Von Rospach
chuqui@...
May 3, 2001 4:48 am
11235
Hi Gang, I need to move my (majordomo) list to another site. Can anyone point me to reasonably priced list hosting services? (Yes, I'm aware of the freebie ...
Bob Comperini
robertc@...
May 3, 2001 2:39 pm
11236
... You don't say who is currently providing majordomo services to you, but I run a bunch of lists (6, I think) via world.std.com. tom coradeschi <+>...
Tom Coradeschi
tcora@...
May 3, 2001 5:03 pm
11237
Bob, try Lisa at support2@... I have two lists with Imagicomm and have been very pleased with the friendly, reliable service. This is an enhanced...
Philip Busey
veld@...
May 3, 2001 6:53 pm
11238
... As others have said, 12,000 subscribers is a very small list. In our case, over 85% of the 11 million subscribers to lists we host are on lists of 10,000...
Sharon Tucci
sharon@...
May 3, 2001 7:02 pm
11239
We host a LOT of lists with U.S. state senators and staff as subscribers. I've been in administrative hell since the 1st and I can't figure out what the heck...
Sharon Tucci
sharon@...
May 3, 2001 7:13 pm
11240
Thanks for the responses everyone.. I knew you'd all know the right answers. Some folks have asked... the list is currently about 450 people, and quite often...
Bob Comperini
robertc@...
May 3, 2001 8:33 pm
11241
... No, not really. Here's the situation -- lots of lobby groups have gotten into the habit of encouraging their people to send their letters to ALL members of...
Chuq Von Rospach
chuqui@...
May 3, 2001 8:55 pm
11242
One thing you might do is look in your connection log files for additional information. A problem I have seen before (many times unfortunately) is the other...
James M Galvin
galvin@...
May 3, 2001 9:19 pm
11243
... Brilliant! You're absolutely correct and this hadn't even occured to me....
Sharon Tucci
sharon@...
May 3, 2001 9:49 pm
11244
... After sending my post through, that exact thought came to mind. It's the most logical reason. Unfortunately, I can't really tell more from the logs than...
Sharon Tucci
sharon@...
May 3, 2001 10:03 pm
11245
On Thu, 03 May 2001 13:01:56 -0700 ... I'd be more interested for hosting offers. -- J C Lawrence claw@... ... --=|...
J C Lawrence
claw@...
May 3, 2001 10:28 pm
11246
... Hiss, boo, evil! Autoresponders should go to the RFC821 sender (what you are calling Return path) so that they do not go to lists and pollute them. For...
Nick Simicich
njs@...
May 3, 2001 11:59 pm
11247
Hi All-- All this discussion about the 'largest' mailing lists and being ethical and all -- I need to find rental or free mailing lists for e-marketing Where...
Jessica Callender
JessicaCallender@...
May 4, 2001 2:20 am
11248
... For paper snail mail lists, sure, lots of them. For e-mail lists, see ...
John R Levine
johnl@...
May 4, 2001 3:32 am
11249
... Yeah, I can see we wouldn't want to let ethics sneak into a marketing discussion, now would we? ... (*sigh*) Actually, this brings up an interesting...
Charlie Summers
charlie@...
May 4, 2001 5:04 am
11250
... How about http://lists.gurus.com/intro.html ? Margy Levine Young <margy@...> Coauthor of "The Internet For Dummies" <http://net.gurus.com> and "Poor ...
Margaret Levine Young
margy@...
May 4, 2001 5:59 am
11251
Charlie, I don't know if this would be of any help, but we put together the following page because of the number of people coming to us wanting to buy lists or...
Sharon Tucci
sharon@...
May 4, 2001 6:33 am
11252
Oh now this is a fun topic to discuss on this list (NOT!) However, I will send this one message about it. RFC2298 defines Message Delivery Notifications, the...
James M Galvin
galvin@...
May 4, 2001 2:57 pm
11253
Just a clarification post: ... <SNIP> ... Jim, we're saying the same thing except for the TO or CC bit. What we are doing is consistent with the standard if it...
Sharon Tucci
sharon@...
May 4, 2001 7:44 pm
11254
... We occasionally get a complaint that someone has received dozens or even hundreds of copies of a single mailing list message. Each time we've been able to...
Tim Pierce
twp@...
May 4, 2001 10:15 pm
11255
... That's not a bad idea. The Berkeley `vacation' algorithm seems to have held up pretty well over the years: send an autoreply only if (a) the recipient is...
Tim Pierce
twp@...
May 4, 2001 10:32 pm
11256
I finally received a response back from the webmaster at senate.gov. I've cut and pasted it below. The thing is -- none of the organizations we host *add*...
Sharon Tucci
sharon@...
May 5, 2001 2:34 am
11257
Tim Pierce wrote, ... Isn't "the address to which the autoreply would be sent has not already been sent a copy of the current autoreply text" part of the...
David W. Tamkin
dattier@...
May 5, 2001 5:09 am
11258
Since I found Tim's description useful (though I haven't had the problem myself), I'll add one: The recipient SMTP server closes the connecton before sending a...
Omar Thameen
omar@...
May 5, 2001 8:47 am
11259
On Fri, 4 May 2001, Tim Pierce wrote: The Berkeley `vacation' algorithm seems to have held up pretty well over the years: .... I would not mind seeing those...
