I know that many lists group addresses by MX to make delivery more efficient. I've always done this by the name, not the IP address, and I'm wondering if this...
Rick Vandenberg
list-admin@...
Nov 14, 2001 9:47 pm
11643
... Then it's pretty badly broken. SMTP is defined as a store and forward protocol, if you accept mail for a domain at all, you have to accept it mixed in...
John R Levine
johnl@...
Nov 14, 2001 10:53 pm
11644
... I agree completely; what I'm trying to find out is if any MTA's take an extra step and group by the IP address rather than simply the MX host name. As far...
Rick Vandenberg
list-admin@...
Nov 14, 2001 11:35 pm
11645
... Filtering mail proxies are a fine idea, there are lots of them around. Proxies purporting to receive SMTP mail that can't actually accept legitimate...
John R Levine
johnl@...
Nov 15, 2001 1:05 am
11646
... That's pretty close, thanks. Too bad I've never used TCL :) My thingamajig will be a little more generic than SAUCE, but the goals seem to be pretty much...
Rick Vandenberg
list-admin@...
Nov 15, 2001 1:20 am
11647
... That's a very good point; if I use a different IP for each proxy, I can make the connections immediately upon the start of the session. If I choose to do...
Rick Vandenberg
list-admin@...
Nov 15, 2001 1:35 am
11648
I just wanted to say thanks for making me dig into the whole DNS issue a little more. The example I gave: vansys.com MX 0 vansys.inbound.vansys.com ...
Rick Vandenberg
list-admin@...
Nov 15, 2001 1:50 am
11649
On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 12:57:43 -0800 ... This is unreliable. Its not specced in a standard, given the wide range of current MTAs in use its not unreasonable to...
J C Lawrence
claw@...
Nov 15, 2001 8:21 am
11650
Okay, perhaps it could use a better acronym. It's 0200, I just got off an airplane ("Look ma, no wake turbulence!"), and that's the best I could think of at...
Vince Sabio
vince@...
Nov 16, 2001 8:11 am
11651
I guess for my money I'd rather see a clueless ISP database. You know, the ones that send NDN back to the list posting address or to the person who posted the...
Mitch Collinsworth
mitch@...
Nov 16, 2001 12:26 pm
11652
... How about guys who have their 'vacation' programs set up to send their 'I'm away' message to the list. [and can there be some kind of "MLMDP" for the...
Bernie Cosell
bernie@...
Nov 16, 2001 1:53 pm
11653
... The only problem with this is the rate at which the db would get stale. I've written to ISPs that have such misconfigured systems, and perhaps 1/3rd of the...
Vince Sabio
vince@...
Nov 16, 2001 2:54 pm
11654
Hi, I'm using ezmlm/qmail right now and management, <sigh>, wants me to change the To: header (or any header) on our lists to show the recipient's real name,...
Bill Luckett
bill.luckett@...
Nov 16, 2001 4:22 pm
11655
Vince Sabio wrote ... The problem is that getting a new email address is trivial. We learned this right quick at ONElist. Managers would ban an email address...
Mark Fletcher
markf@...
Nov 16, 2001 5:42 pm
11656
... I thought so too, but was hesitant to say so in SPAM-L :) Just call me meek. Btw - nice name Vince - "CURES". ... I was envisioning some slightly less...
Rick Vandenberg
list-admin@...
Nov 16, 2001 5:59 pm
11657
Sorry for the repost, my *cluelessness* led me hit send before I was finished. Ironic, eh? ... I thought so too, but was hesitant to say so in SPAM-L :) Just...
Rick Vandenberg
list-admin@...
Nov 16, 2001 6:42 pm
11658
... Gotta love Management(tm). They're always thinking. And, of course, therein lies the danger. ... Lyris ("ListManager") can do it with ease....
Vince Sabio
vince@...
Nov 16, 2001 7:01 pm
11659
This is clearly an idea whose time has come. I'd like to propose the following: 1. A mailing list be set up of volunteers who would review nominations. 2....
Nick Simicich
njs@...
Nov 16, 2001 7:10 pm
11660
And then what, put the e-mail list name in the reply-to? This is not so much a matter of the mlm as being a matter of the sending mechanism. I could do it...
Nick Simicich
njs@...
Nov 16, 2001 7:27 pm
11661
On Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:49:19 -0600 ... This is not a list manager function, this is an MTA function. Put in a delivery time filter in your MTA to traps...
J C Lawrence
claw@...
Nov 16, 2001 7:44 pm
11662
... I also suggested Lyris, but said that the real answer is "sure, we can do that, it'll cost about $5,000 and a week's configuration work. You ready to...
John R Levine
johnl@...
Nov 16, 2001 8:43 pm
11663
... Egads, John, I should hope that he's planning to run his own copy rather than use a hosted solution. (Don't get me wrong, hosted solutions are great for...
Vince Sabio
vince@...
Nov 16, 2001 8:56 pm
11664
... Agreed on all points, comments follow as appropriate... ... I nominate myself as a volunteer. :-) ... Given this arrangement, I think an open web page --...
Vince Sabio
vince@...
Nov 16, 2001 9:27 pm
11665
... I'm pretty sure that it's relatively easy to hack qmail to make this possible: Look at the qmail-verh patch. It replaces ##L with the localpart of the...
Norbert Bollow
nb@...
Nov 17, 2001 3:23 pm
11666
Here's a question for the masses. I am seeing more and more messages of the form "I know this is off-topic, but..." -- things where the poster knows and admits...
Chuq Von Rospach
chuqui@...
Nov 27, 2001 7:10 pm
11667
... It's inevitable, to some degree, and each list has its own tolerance level for flagrantly off-topic queries/discussions. ... On a list-by-list basis. Some...
Dave Sill
de5-list-managers@...
Nov 27, 2001 8:24 pm
11668
... I'm not sure I've seen much of an increase recently. I can say that there ar definitely qualitative differences among the mailing lists I'm on --- some...
Bernie Cosell
bernie@...
Nov 27, 2001 8:38 pm
11669
... I don't allow it. I started the list to focus on a topic. Sometimes a particular subject might not be clearly on-topic or off-topic, so I might let such...
Jim Poston
jim.poston@...
Nov 27, 2001 9:29 pm
11670
... As you probably know, the listmoms who manage the potpourri of lists on my server take a pretty hard line when it comes to staying on topic. We quash...
Vince Sabio
vince@...
Nov 27, 2001 10:01 pm
11671
THIS is my biggest peave and drives me crazy on lists. I I think it is rude. The person is poisoning their own well by introducing culch. Lar...
