On Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:57:14 -0500 ... This is a rather useless aspersion without the specifics on: -- What version of SpamAssassin -- How SpamAssassin was...
J C Lawrence
claw@...
Nov 1, 2002 10:14 am
12692
... OK. Then explain something to me. How does SpamAssassin differentiate between a solicited bulk message and an unsolicited bulk message? Sean Brunnock ...
Sean Brunnock
brunnock@...
Nov 1, 2002 11:54 am
12693
... Generally pretty well, as long as you avoid using unfortunate phrases. One of our authors used the term "hardcore" in an issue recently and you could hear...
Chuq Von Rospach
chuqui@...
Nov 1, 2002 1:32 pm
12694
--On Friday, November 01, 2002 6:53 AM -0500 Sean Brunnock ... Just to explain one more time, SpamAssassin applies a bunch of (mostly regular expression) tests...
Tom Neff
tneff@...
Nov 1, 2002 4:06 pm
12695
On Fri, 01 Nov 2002 06:53:03 -0500 ... It doesn't. SA doesn't particularly distinguish between bulk mail and non-bulk mail. SA is a scoring tool. In...
J C Lawrence
claw@...
Nov 3, 2002 7:56 am
12696
I just spent an hour fighting this and thought that if someone else was fighting it, I would try and help them. Short version: Messages direct to the poster...
Nick Simicich
njs@...
Nov 3, 2002 12:28 pm
12697
Today's Wall Street Journal has a front page article on spam, starting with reporting on one spammer -- who makes money on 1 response per 100K emails, and has...
Beartooth
karhunhammas@...
Nov 13, 2002 6:39 pm
12698
... B> Today's Wall Street Journal has a front page article on B> spam, starting with reporting on one spammer -- who makes money on URL:...
Vivek Khera
khera@...
Nov 13, 2002 6:58 pm
12699
See this post: TOPICA INSIDER NEWS: AOL & Hotmail Email Client Changes Nov 07, 2002 09:49 PST ...
Tatum, Rich
rich@...
Nov 14, 2002 8:32 pm
12700
I'm still running my little list entirely by hand, though I still hope to automate it one day. My practice has been to send out a purge notice about once a...
Beartooth
karhunhammas@...
Nov 21, 2002 8:51 pm
12701
... I've never seen that done. I'm not saying it is a bad idea. For very low volume lists it might help (but periodic reminders, like mailman's, will also do...
Jeffrey Goldberg
jeffrey@...
Nov 21, 2002 9:41 pm
12702
... Good idea; I'll bear that in mind. Thanks! ... Dunno if they do; I do, yes. I go to every length I can think of against spam; but I do occasionally invite...
Beartooth
karhunhammas@...
Nov 21, 2002 10:15 pm
12703
Jeffrey told Beartooth, ... I was once on a list running under MDaemon (which is apparently primarily an MTA with list management as an afterthought). Every...
David W. Tamkin
dattier@...
Nov 21, 2002 11:48 pm
12704
... OK. If it makes you (and possibly your users) feel better to know that everyone has recently reconfirmed in recent months, go ahead. I wasn't criticizing...
Jeffrey Goldberg
jeffrey@...
Nov 22, 2002 12:11 am
12705
On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, David W. Tamkin wrote: (snipperoo) ... IOW my practice -- once a year at most -- *may* be driving people away. So be it. It's a jokeswap...
Beartooth
karhunhammas@...
Nov 22, 2002 12:14 am
12706
Jeffrey Goldberg asked, ... I have. From my last list, four incidents come to mind. One jerk asked to join (I maintained the membership rolls manually) who...
David W. Tamkin
dattier@...
Nov 22, 2002 4:55 am
12707
... In three of those it was an autoresponder-like thing that incorrectly accused of spamming. Beartooth's scheme would be of no advantage in such cases. In...
Jeffrey Goldberg
jeffrey@...
Nov 22, 2002 5:52 am
12708
... I have one mailing list that requires a completed application to join. The topic of the list is fireworks. The primary purpose of the application is to...
murr rhame
murr@...
Nov 22, 2002 2:52 pm
12709
Jeffrey Goldberg wrote about my war stories, ... Actually, only two of those I listed. But now that I think about it, there was a third such autoresponder...
David W. Tamkin
dattier@...
Nov 22, 2002 6:47 pm
12710
... I suppose I should just do like everyone else and have a web site. Till now, though, I have not found a need for that hypothesis ... Otoh, then I could...
Beartooth
karhunhammas@...
Nov 22, 2002 10:28 pm
12711
... I personally think that reconfirmations are a bad idea. They increase the load on the subscribers without doing anything positive. Frankly, I do not even...
Nick Simicich
njs@...
Nov 22, 2002 11:49 pm
12712
... Stick your site behind a password and no one _can_ stumble over it, including the web spiders. You could hold an "open" front page, and password-protect...
Charlie Summers
charlie@...
Nov 23, 2002 12:07 am
12713
... May I distribute the passage above to my jokeswap list (without indicia, of course, to obviate spam, but with or without your name, as you prefer)? <grin>...
Beartooth
karhunhammas@...
Nov 23, 2002 1:43 am
12714
... There's no such thing as "double opt-in." A request from some unknown location comes to you. That's not an "opting in" because it is unverified that that...
Roger B.A. Klorese
rogerk@...
Nov 23, 2002 2:12 am
12715
... For a particular type of list, they do something very positive: chase away slackers and lurkers. If you're interested in having smaller lists of high...
Roger B.A. Klorese
rogerk@...
Nov 23, 2002 2:27 am
12716
... Why? What harm do slackers and lurkers do? And what's the difference between them? I don't even know for sure what a slacker is, in this context, except...
Beartooth
karhunhammas@...
Nov 23, 2002 3:08 am
12717
... That's fine for many, even most, lists. We host a few where the goal is comunity, even "jabber," not technical or focused discussion. The owners of some...
Roger B.A. Klorese
rogerk@...
Nov 23, 2002 3:44 am
12718
... Oh. Of course. Been there, done that -- in physical rooms, long ago & far away. Should've realized it'd be being done online, too. <slaps forehead, bumbles...
Beartooth
karhunhammas@...
Nov 23, 2002 3:59 am
12719
... Hardly, Roger. First, receiving a subscription request and allowing that it actually may have come from the address on it is not "capture." It's not the...
David W. Tamkin
dattier@...
Nov 23, 2002 4:02 am
12720
--On Friday, November 22, 2002 7:44 PM -0800 "Roger B.A. Klorese" ... That is all fine and well, but from a List-Managers standpoint, the governing principle...
