well, I was promised more than once that yahoo security was going to contact me, and nobody ever did. Ohwell. here's the issue: it looks to me like someone's...
Chuq Von Rospach
chuqui@...
Jul 8, 2003 5:58 am
13272
[Resending] ... Okay, so /that/ sucks. ... Short of a brute-force attack, I think it would be difficult. In the tradition of openness (and because it's all in...
Barry Warsaw
bwarsaw@...
Jul 8, 2003 1:28 pm
13273
... The only obvious hole I see is interception of the outgoing message containing the cookie... Jim Trigg -- Jim Trigg, Lord High Everything Else O-...
Jim Trigg
blaise@...
Jul 8, 2003 4:16 pm
13274
... I'm not sitting in front of the source code for Mailman right now (and I don't read Python), so this brings up a few questions. - Can random.random() run...
Paul Hoffman / IMC
phoffman@...
Jul 10, 2003 7:39 pm
13275
... of course, if they're sniffing packets or otherwise intercepting content, the only thing that'll stop it is a phone call... carrier pigeon, maybe. My...
Chuq Von Rospach
chuqui@...
Jul 10, 2003 7:55 pm
13276
... Some PRNGs have failure modes which become easily predictable. These are almost always triggered when the source of random bits is exhausted. If you ask...
Paul Hoffman / IMC
phoffman@...
Jul 11, 2003 9:00 am
13277
Hi , I recently set majordomo lists on my mail server. I can see the lists and make modifications to them using the web interface (majorcool). But somehow the...
Amod Phadke
amod_phadke@...
Jul 15, 2003 7:12 am
13278
Any suggestions from the crowd as to sources of providers of list services? I'd also be interested in your personal recommendations. majordomo preferred...
Tom Coradeschi
tcora@...
Jul 15, 2003 1:17 pm
13279
Within the past couple of hours, AOL has started blocking all my mailing lists (all live on the same server) mistaking them for spam. This happened a few...
Bob Bish
bobbish@...
Jul 15, 2003 10:46 pm
13280
... We have. :-) Anne Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. CEO Habeas, Inc....
Anne P. Mitchell, Esq.
amitchell@...
Jul 16, 2003 1:10 am
13281
... Yes. Assuming you own the server in question, call the number in AOL's whois entry in the morning and plead your case. It's actually fairly easy to show...
Al Iverson
iverson@...
Jul 16, 2003 2:25 am
13282
... It was even easier than that. They have a web page for testing for open relays (it's given in the bounce message). I tested the IP address of the list...
Bob Bish
bobbish@...
Jul 16, 2003 2:38 am
13283
... http://postmaster.info.aol.com/ You'll see the choices on the left. ...Bob...
Bob Bish
bobbish@...
Jul 16, 2003 4:35 am
13284
... BB> Has anyone found a way to get AOL to whitelist, or stop blocking, BB> mailing lists? They are not all that unreasonable to deal with. Go to ...
Vivek Khera
khera@...
Jul 16, 2003 1:54 pm
13285
... BB> The good news is that AOL's blocking of my lists has ceased. It only BB> lasted for about 8-9 hours total. Well, they could have blocked it for...
Vivek Khera
khera@...
Jul 16, 2003 2:18 pm
13286
... GAE> and were quite helpful - albeit unconvincing as to why we've been GAE> blocked. They even offered to send me the complaints. We get copies of...
Vivek Khera
khera@...
Jul 17, 2003 12:49 pm
13287
... Worse, AOL's attitude is "if they reported it, it must be spam". there's no analysis done at all. Or interest in doing so. I've got various aspects of this...
Chuq Von Rospach
chuqui@...
Jul 17, 2003 1:39 pm
13288
... got another one this morning. Hockey tournament in las vegas. On a list about hockey. On a list about playing in tournaments. My policy is to treat these...
Chuq Von Rospach
chuqui@...
Jul 17, 2003 1:51 pm
13289
--On Thursday, July 17, 2003 8:48 AM -0400 Vivek Khera <khera@...> ... This is one of my big gripes with that system. We've all known for years that...
Tom Neff
tneff@...
Jul 17, 2003 1:55 pm
13290
Wouldn't help. 90% or more of the spam complaints I see come when users see a mailbox full of spam, select everything in the mailbox in frustration, and report...
Chuq Von Rospach
chuqui@...
Jul 17, 2003 2:22 pm
13291
--On Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:19 AM -0700 Chuq Von Rospach ... Point certainly taken. Maybe there's a way to convince AOL to treat such "bulk spam reports" ...
Tom Neff
tneff@...
Jul 17, 2003 2:24 pm
13292
Tom, You gotta love it. ... A couple of months ago this happened to me. I wasn't on the open relay list, but I just kept getting blocked. Finally I got in...
Brian Zaleski
ZaleskiDC@...
Jul 17, 2003 3:06 pm
13293
Tom, that "remember, you signed up for this list and it's functioning as it should" reminder to newbies and suddenly active lists is a good one. And not all...
Janet Detter Margul
janet@...
Jul 17, 2003 3:22 pm
13294
... good luck. ... not from my discussions with them, no....
Chuq Von Rospach
chuqui@...
Jul 17, 2003 3:38 pm
13295
... so you turn on personalization in mailman, and include the e-mail address in the footer. Then, only digests are anonymous, but to date, I've only had one...
Chuq Von Rospach
chuqui@...
Jul 17, 2003 3:44 pm
13296
... That would depend on people actually reading it. Lots of luck there! It constantly amazes me how people fill out and submit forms on the Internet without...
Bob Bish
bobbish@...
Jul 17, 2003 7:59 pm
13297
... Indeed, on one of the lists I'm on, the "how to unsubscribe" info is in the footer at the bottom of EVERY message... and, yup, you guessed it: yesterday,...
Bernie Cosell
bernie@...
Jul 17, 2003 8:51 pm
13298
... I too get these on behalf of a client I do server administration for. I believe AOL calls it a feedback loop. ... The bulk of my client's virtual hosting...
Steve Werby
steve-lists@...
Jul 17, 2003 9:06 pm
13299
... I think it might help this problem somewhat, although not alieviate it entirely of course, for AOL's spam report button to look at the message and if it...
Russ Allbery
rra@...
Jul 17, 2003 9:55 pm
13300
... Some of us brought up ideas like that at the spam summit back in late April/early May, but were met mostly with blank stares in response. I didn't...
