Just today, we've gotten a couple reports from list owners about Hotmail not displaying certain messages properly. We've determined that this happens with...
Omar Thameen
omar@...
Oct 14, 2004 6:30 pm
13557
I recently had an unpleasant experience subscribing to a mailing list. The list owner had configured the list to subscribe new users with a variety of unusual...
JC Dill
lists04@...
Oct 15, 2004 5:17 am
13558
I am not aware of any standards, or even "best practices" documents regarding welcome messages, and the default welcome message text in most MLM products seems...
Paul Russell
prussell@...
Oct 15, 2004 2:59 pm
13559
I host a few lists on my install of the Mailgust MLM and take great care in making sure that all necessary contact details and info are clear but concise, both...
lee
davislee@...
Oct 15, 2004 4:06 pm
13560
If anyone cares, the problem was that the signature delimiting string that we were using, "--+--" , was causing Hotmail display the message with 7bit encoded...
Omar Thameen
omar@...
Oct 18, 2004 11:03 pm
13561
... Then perhaps you should actually use the RFC-compliant signature delimiter, two dashes (-) followed by one space followed by a newline....
Roger B.A. Klorese
rogerk@...
Oct 19, 2004 2:54 am
13562
... That's not a bad idea, though it doesn't excuse Hotmail's inability to display the messages. The problems I see are: - I've only been able to find...
Omar Thameen
omar@...
Oct 19, 2004 4:14 am
13563
hello everyone, I'm running a mailing list manager using the sendmail binary for outgoing mail, because smtp is too restricted to make the 300+ zubscriber base...
lee
davislee@...
Nov 4, 2004 5:54 pm
13564
... Others here can probably quote the RFCs on this better than me, but I'll offer my limited opinion. First, those errors you mention should never go to the...
Jim Osborn
jimo@...
Nov 4, 2004 8:02 pm
13565
Thanks very much Jim, yes, the MLM's developer (Mailgust) indeed knows about the issue and the need for better handling of bounces; I'm assuming the problem...
lee
davislee@...
Nov 4, 2004 8:31 pm
13566
Hi Lee ... If you are refering to using entries in the sendmail aliases file to implement a mailing list, such as mylist-l: john@..., jim@..., .... Then...
Todd Olson
tco2@...
Nov 5, 2004 2:30 pm
13567
... Oct 31 21:47:04 parrot postfix/smtp[22537]: 7D00825B42C: to=<jimmickle@...>, relay=mx.nyc.untd.com[64.136.20.83], delay=23, status=sent (250 OK id...
Nick Simicich
njs@...
Nov 7, 2004 4:12 pm
13568
Many thanks Nick and also Jim and Bob for your advice so far; You've all mentioned VERP and related issues, which I am doing my best to understand. Even though...
lee
davislee@...
Nov 7, 2004 8:56 pm
13569
... Lee, could you put an example of a message posted to your list on a website somewhere? With full headers, saved as a text file? All received lines/from...
Al Iverson
iverson@...
Nov 7, 2004 10:17 pm
13570
Thanks for your interest Al; Sorry about the wonky line wrap in my last mail to this list. Sure, below is a url showing the message source as shown in Mozilla ...
lee
davislee@...
Nov 7, 2004 11:48 pm
13571
... Yeah, same on Mozilla for me, for any message I check, so I don't think it's having an impact on the issue. ... If I understand correctly, the issue is...
Al Iverson
iverson@...
Nov 8, 2004 12:06 am
13572
hello again Al and everyone, (see * below for my replies) ... * Yes, indeed so. ... * I don't have one to hand at present, but could generate one. They appear...
lee
davislee@...
Nov 8, 2004 12:21 am
13573
He how to I get out of this group......
Derek Cosby
drcoz@...
Nov 8, 2004 12:54 am
13574
Derek or anyone else, You should be able to leave any list on this majordomo installation by visiting the link below and using the options accordingly : ...
lee
davislee@...
Nov 8, 2004 1:14 am
13575
... Um, you need to get a basic understanding of sendmail before you do this stuff. Return-path is a header that is set by the MTA (i.e., sendmail) as part of...
Nick Simicich
njs@...
Nov 8, 2004 3:38 am
13576
thanks Nick, All noted and I will look into all of it. As for the smtp thing; mailgust offers mail sending either by entering a chosen smtp server in the...
lee
davislee@...
Nov 8, 2004 3:50 am
13577
Just a few more thoughts on this, as I move increasingly towards giving up. I need someone who understands php and sendmail, and is willing to look at the 2...
lee
davislee@...
Nov 8, 2004 8:56 am
13578
hello everyone, In your experience is it ok to treat a bounce error as shown below as 'user unknown' or does it literally imply a temporary problem with an ...
lee
davislee@...
Nov 14, 2004 12:30 pm
13579
hello again Todd and everyone who has recently helped and advised me, Just a little update for you to consider/react to where relevant. My new replies here are...
lee
davislee@...
Nov 14, 2004 1:42 pm
13580
... I publish an Ezine so the problem is probably different with than with an open-ended list serv. With the Ezine, I file these replies and periodically check...
John Watkins
johnw@...
Nov 14, 2004 3:23 pm
13581
Hi all, We've been running Listproc for a number of years now and it's time to migrate to something maintained & updated. Our use is typical for a mid-size...
Michael Coxe
mcoxe@...
Feb 4, 2005 1:08 am
13582
I've become a big fan of sympa. It takes a little work to set up and tune, but it's a serious tool. Lot's of flexibility. I know at least one university...
mfidelman@...
Feb 4, 2005 1:42 am
13583
Michael, All, I can not offer a review but you may be interested in this project that I am participating in. Our software is called GroupServer. It is open ...
Dan Randow
dan@...
Feb 4, 2005 2:33 am
13584
What? A Luddite for Majordomo? Yes. System Adminstrators can be divided into the white-hot geniuses and the rest of us that just want to go home at the end...
Stewart Dean
sdean@...
Feb 4, 2005 1:53 pm
13585
I just read your mail with my mouth open going "what?!?". Having run both majordomo and mailman I was having trouble believing what you were saying. I run...
