This is my first visit to the group today, after having discovered the Shavian alphabet via omniglot.com. As a language teacher and student, I am interested in...
... finewineau? It is good that literacy standards are high in most of the English speaking countries. But based on recent statistics better than 50% of the...
Japanese and Hebrew are two other languages that have proper alphabets. The problem with english is that we used the old roman alphabet, which did not meet the...
... I believe that a simplified version of the original shaw should be used as opposed to quikscript. I have a few problems in that qs has combined or...
Hi Star Raven There seems to be a number of ways to type up Shaw documents. Are you using one of them. 1. Load a Shaw font and Install the Ghoti Writer from...
... I have androlocles and ghoti on my computer, however, typing in these fonts is atrocious. My feeling is that it should not be like typing on a normal...
... the British do not.<< Many Americans, myself included, contrast /w/ and /hw/ phonemically. I write /hw/ with an h and a w in the Shaw Alphabet. I'm a 63...
Paul If you were wanting to simplify the alphabet, perhaps you could consider moving towards the phonetics of Quikscript; i.e. remove the compound letters and...
Hi Star You probably would like the Ghoti Writer. It is a little word processor program, that makes use of the Shaw fonts to write the Shaw alphabet. It has an...
It occured to me that hung and ha-ha seem to have swapped letters. I read the back log of posts and found there had been a discussion on this subject some...
Hi There was a 'discussion' on it, but instigated by only one man. The argument was more or less stopped dead in its tracks after we found that in Quikscript...
... I'm from central Ohio with a north midland dialect (which fans out across the west, according to dialectologists) and my biggest frustration is ...
Hi Craig Thanks for your insights and suggestions. Let me respond to them in a point format. 1. As a mid-western Canadian, I had the same difficulties ...
Hi Hugh I have two main objectives. One is to popularize and make more accessible the Shaw Alphabet. Two is to minimize or at least regularize the way in which...
Hi Craig I will include the full text of your note to the Shaw Group and suggest that everyone read your note attached to the bottom of my response. Let me...
... these ... on ... we ... and ... Actually, I'm working on a new Shaw font myself, with a newer, far more logical layout. I found the current standard set OK...
... the word ... with the ... I'd suggest avoiding the creation of any new letters for Shaw. Indeed, having multiple spellings for the same sound (something...
... Same with me, as a BCer. However, yesterday I heard my dad (an Irish native) say something that really drove home the difference. Not a "how to tell the...
THANK YOU!! I have been trying to get at this point for some time. We don't need any more new symbols until we can learn to use the ones we have. Ah Awe On and...
I agree entirely. We have all the characters we will ever need in the alphabet as it is, and the point of having characters that don't make sense in some...
... Of course many dialects pronounce the sounds differently and should have the letters to write them, but for those who do not distinguish the sounds, it ...
Ah, yes, that is true, they are the same in some dialects... this is why there should be a subset... for some dialects, choose the on, awe, ah, up, ado, that...
... OK, I mixed the letter names up in my last post. The "cot/caught" merger involves the letters ON and AWE, as attested by the pair "rot(ten)/wrought" in...
... [..] ... As a west-coast American I've got the same set as of ASHes as you. (Though for "yah" I'm assuming it's supposed to be what I would spell as ...
... From ... some ... pronounce ... As a west coast Canadian, I can confirm that. "Past" and "pasta" are both definitely with an "Ash". I'm so happy for the...
... perfect example of analogy being inadequate for describing sounds. When I spoke of past being like pasta, I was imagining British AH, and pasta being more...
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let me first say that I have a suppressed Tennessee dialect... for those of us from the south we know that the normal tennessee accent is a very different set...
Silly Canadians! (j/k) ... --Star, the jokingly ethno-linguocentric ... ===== "One ship goes east, another west, By the self same gale that blows. 'Tis not the...
