I've noticed the same thing. I've had to use two letters to write what I consider a single phoneme. The letter Ian is great, but we need more like it. For...
... Are there any native words which contain this vowel + ... The only one I can think of at the moment is butler. But the personal suffis -er does some weird...
... It's not supposed to. It's not the same phoneme if there are minimal pairs like the ones you've given that are only distinguished by that one sound ...
... I write aim, am: Em, Am (age-mime, ash-mime) Also pain, pan: pEn, pAn Dane, Dan: /dEn, /dAn main, man: mEn, mAn You get the idea. Different vowel sounds,...
Hi there Eric! Welcome to the group! Do you have much experience with the Shaw Alphabet or are you learning / hoping to learn? Regards Hugh B ... From: Eric...
I'm actually been wanting to learn for awhile. I finally got the time and I'm writing a online game to help me learn which letters are which. Can anyone point...
Hi Eric You could try my website at http://www.mixsynth.btinternet.co.uk/shavian/ - it will give you all the information you need to get started, I think! ...
Thanks, I've already learned from your site that some of the letters are compounds. I was really racking my brain trying to figure out what SINGLE sound they...
I've got it online. It quizzes you on all 48 basic shivan letters. Right now it just goes on forever, i plan add a score and difficulty levels. From there i'm...
Hi Joe I believe you would have to put a hard G after finger (fiNgD) but not after singer (siND). Just like for banker (bFNkD), there is another phoneme, ...
Hi Joe Unfortunately, it will be difficult to create a Shaw letter or even a diagraph for every possible English vowel vocalization. As many English speaker...
Hi Ethan I hear pain, aim and fair pronounced as a dipthong on occassion. It would be spelt pAan, Aam and fAD/feD instead of pEn, Em and fR. It is normal...
Hello, For those of you running Mac OS X Jaguar I have created a Shavian keyboard layout. This allows you to input Shavian in Unicode format (using the...
... From: paul vandenbrink To: shavian@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 6:45 AM Subject: [shavian] Re: International Shaw Alphabet Subset - Bonus...
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Hi Hugh It is an interesting point. You are correct. (bANkD) I don't really speak with a Liverpool accent. I notice that in those English words where the "a"...
I still don't see any need to write the hard G. We pronounce it that way naturally based on its environment. In the middle of a word, it will always have a...
... a ... Well, I don't suppose it would be very difficult to create all the letters, but it would certainly be pointless. There is just too much variation....
The following shavian poll is now closed. Here are the final results: POLL QUESTION: I worry that some of the Shavian letters might look too similar for some ...
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... From: Joe To: shavian@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 12:14 AM Subject: [shavian] Re: International Shaw Alphabet Subset - Bonus Round I...
Hi Joe Even though it can be determined relatively consistently from letter position within word, the whole point of the Shaw Alphabet is to spell words...
Hi Joe Excuse me. Wrong assumption on my part. I also spell fair and fare as fX. Regards, Paul V. P.S. I also toyed with the idea of having some of the less...
Hi Joe My pronunciation for "few" is not so pronounced. If I was to use "yew" in my spelling of few, I would write it as just f+yew. IU and "ee"+"yew" in my...
Good news! Unicode 4.0 is now officially released, and Shavian is now officially a part of Unicode. I was especially happy to see that the "SHAVIAN LETTER...
Ethan wrote: (blank message) Now that's strange. It appears my email program was doing funny things without my knowlege! Sorry about the blank message. It...
Hi, Let their be rejoicing! Now can the people who make true type fonts for Shavian please encode the glyphs at their proper Unicode code points. I have been...
