Hi all, Long time lurker and first time poster here. In my fairly limited time in post sound I've started to notice that mixing often seems to be about...
... Randy and group, I used the example of the describing envelope, spectrum and pitch because it is the easiest way to compare sounds, not because I think it...
Hi I`d like to make a comment on "describing the characer of sounds". There`s something missing in the disscusion. And it´s the point of view. I mean, Why ...
... "maxfrick78" <maxfrick@...> wrote: The system of Pierre Schaeffer would probably work, did anyone try if it proved to be useful? ... I tried Max, but it...
Hi, Max! Good points. I do think that descriptors like "scary" "screech" "bonk" "plop" "comical" etc. are extremely useful for the kinds of searches that...
Gustavo- One thing about Ryan, which is quite extraordinary, is the way that Spielberg chose his moments and provided distinct focus- this really goes back to...
Hi Gustavo, Another Gustavo here. My point regarding Schaeffer was not about how useful is or isn't but was about to put in perspective how complex and vast is...
Hi, Read M. Chion "Audiovision", he refers to this effect as "subjetive sound" (though the term was not created by him). As examples you can see these three...
As you suggest, film mixing is, or should be, far more recondite and penetrating than simply featuring the sound for whatever image dominates the screen at a...
Hi Gustavo, Many thanks for the recommendation and references. I think it's time I bit the bullet and read Chion... However, I was not just talking about...
Hi Gustavo I tried the system becasuse I was triyng to be more effective with a very specific type of TV spots I was working on. I was triyng to categorize a...
I guess I don't like the "cocktail party effect" analogy because it seems to trivialize. Using this analogy is a bit like the trivializing of certain painters...
In case anybody took it more seriously than I intended, my comment about those French painters from the 1870's was made tongue-in-cheek. I'm not putting us in...
hi dan, if you haven't checked it out, there's a paper by barry arons that covers some of the basics of stream segregation. it talks a lot about trying to...
It was certainly not my intention to trivialize. I just wanted to draw a comparison between what we sometimes do when mixing and what the brain does as...
Hi, Dan! Sorry to have over-reacted. Randy ... draw a comparison between ... in the (poorly ... something of interest to ... sources by the brain. But ... ...
I agree entirely. Another factor is the style of the composer. For example, the composer of the big post-romantic orchestral score, is less likely than say...
Greg Malcangi
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I'm wondering what others think of recent trends in terms of the amount of music and sound effects in films. Forty years ago in the USA it was common for...
In a perfect world, i.e. without the economic/commercial meddling of non-creative types... I suppose like all things it depends on the narrative and the...
Randy's point opens a larger discussion, how the world is a noisier place and therefore suggests new strategies
for intentional sound making. Instore sound...
Hi Randy, ... You may like to see a non-USA film, BTW, called "Se, jie" (Lust, Caution). The film isn't overloaded with music. At the end there is a nice scene...
Thanks a lot for all the replies! It seems communication and convincing the director may earn more room for sound designer - am I right? The point Greg brings...
Randy, I hope its a trend, well maybe we can try to make it a trend. But I fear it has more to do with the storytelling and the filmmakers involved. There was...
Very interesting point Randy. I'm sure there are volumes to be written on this subject… After revisiting 'Also spracht Zarathustra' by Richard Strauss and...
Fascinating, though, that the entrance of T-Rex, probably the best remembered scene in the movie, had NO MUSIC. I can't tell you how many directors have asked...
I can't help to notice how everyone keeps mentioning "no country for old men", yet not one mention of "Michael Clayton", (was there ANY music init at all?)...
Michael Clayton certainly had music, but not as much as most others. I do hope this is a trend, and not because I'm a music hater. I'd like to hear it used...
I guess I don't remember hearing it, because it did it's job, and wasn't obtrusive. Which unfortunately these days is what you get. Loud, obtrusive music, when...
