Just curious... does anyone know if Netscape has a position about this? AFAIK, they don't care, but have we confirmed that? ... -- Mark Nottingham ...
Mark Nottingham
mnot@...
Jun 1, 2001 7:03 am
1770
Hi, I've tried repeatedly to get to the appropriate folks at Netscape, and Netscape/AOL. I've fallen off the end of cold trail after cold trail. There just...
Rael Dornfest
rael@...
Jun 1, 2001 7:07 am
1771
I'd like to introduce a new tool in RSS field - Feedreader. It's a Windows 95/98/2000 feed client, which happily reads RSS 0.9x and RSS 1.0 feeds and can...
kika@...
Jun 1, 2001 11:49 am
1772
Look, I made a fair offer, I gather you're not accepting it. Not talking about "you" as in the RS-DEV group, which *does* appear to be accepting it, I'm...
Dave Winer
dave@...
Jun 1, 2001 12:05 pm
1773
I *think* the point of renaming is to make it easier for developers who are just discovering RSS to choose the path to take. For me, eventually, it was an easy...
James Shaw
yahoo@...
Jun 1, 2001 1:10 pm
1774
Greetings from a lurker of the rss-dev and syndication discussion lists. I have been following the discussions of the RSS community lately (although I admit I...
David Smiley
dsmiley@...
Jun 1, 2001 1:23 pm
1775
... I like PRISM a lot, but RSS 1.0 is simpler. And neither is "more RDF based" than the other. We can mix PRISM constructs into RSS 1.0 feeds, or RSS 1.0...
Dan Brickley
daniel.brickley@...
Jun 1, 2001 1:36 pm
1776
David, 0.92 almost certainly is not the most widely deployed format, by any measure. But we also seem to agree that talking about statistics in this context is...
Dave Winer
dave@...
Jun 1, 2001 1:51 pm
1777
... (cross-posted to RSS-DEV due to relevance -- apologies in advance) I agree. After a good night's sleep and some thoughtful reading of this morning's posts...
dave.cantrell@...
Jun 1, 2001 1:53 pm
1778
James, this is a very useful point of view. While the naming didn't make that much of a difference to you, would it have made your job more difficult if the...
Dave Winer
dave@...
Jun 1, 2001 2:00 pm
1779
... formats called "RSS" had different names, and pointed to each other? Well, I think it would. "RSS-basic" and "RSS-extensible" tell developers to look at...
James Shaw
yahoo@...
Jun 1, 2001 2:32 pm
1780
According to this logic, if I wanted to make an apple pie I should call it RSS-Apple Pie, because someone might prefer to eat some apple pie instead of ...
Dave Winer
dave@...
Jun 1, 2001 2:41 pm
1781
... That's NOT the point. PRISM may not be for all I know. The fact is if I'm looking for a format to use I'll choose the "standard" that looks like it offers...
James Shaw
yahoo@...
Jun 1, 2001 3:05 pm
1782
Oy. Forget I mentioned OPML. Please. It has nothing to do with RSS. I mentioned it in a friendly way to say that there is life after RSS, or at least I've...
Dave Winer
dave@...
Jun 1, 2001 3:12 pm
1783
... this ... for ... hell up ... arguing ... I'm afraid this is my point exactly. As long as there are folks arguing for an RSS-* split, they deserve the...
rael@...
Jun 1, 2001 3:29 pm
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... folks? Ask away....
James Shaw
yahoo@...
Jun 1, 2001 3:34 pm
1785
... Go for it. This meta-discussion is getting wearisome, even for me. ;-> Dave...
Dave Winer
dave@...
Jun 1, 2001 3:37 pm
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... I'd not simply created a poll for two reasons: * Since this is Mark's list and he'd noted that he didn't think it time yet for a poll, I'd respected his...
rael@...
Jun 1, 2001 3:38 pm
1787
... but we ... GIVE UP ON THIS. Stop attempting to consider anything with RSS in it. The users certainly don't care. The developers will adjust. All this...
Bill Kearney
wkearney99@...
Jun 1, 2001 4:14 pm
1788
... None of it was created alone. Who really cares anymore? Let this damned debate DIE already!...
Bill Kearney
wkearney99@...
Jun 1, 2001 4:15 pm
1789
... None of us disagree on this point, at least as far as I know. We're just needing to move forward that doesn't entail simply listening to the loudest voices...
Rael Dornfest
rael@...
Jun 1, 2001 4:19 pm
1790
... The Yahoo web interface bastardizes anything with an @ sign in it. (thinking it's an e-mail address and guarding against spam trolls no doubt) -Bill...
Bill Kearney
wkearney99@...
Jun 1, 2001 4:19 pm
1791
... and ... trail. ... whole heck of ... someone, they ... ability to ... up. And run the risk of their old attitudes coming back up AGAIN? Sounds like a...
Bill Kearney
wkearney99@...
Jun 1, 2001 4:20 pm
1792
... Thanks for sharing your point of view, James. This is one of the major reasons I'm wanting to hold on to the RSS name right now. RSS 1.0 is very much in...
Aaron Swartz
aswartz@...
Jun 1, 2001 4:36 pm
1793
Proposal for a poll: --8<-- RSS has a long and varied history; noone (except possibly Netscape, who don't seem to care) can claim to 'own' the name. There are...
Mark Nottingham
mnot@...
Jun 1, 2001 4:40 pm
1794
... Okay, the "rest" of us are saying move on with the issue. If anyone has any objections they are free to make them known on the list. So far I've heard a...
dave.cantrell@...
Jun 1, 2001 4:48 pm
1795
... I agree and second. ... I would say until Monday night. It's Friday, people may already be planning their weekends, and may be buried under Monday catchup...
Morbus Iff
morbus@...
Jun 1, 2001 4:50 pm
1796
Well, this arrived just as I sent out my previous rant. Oh well. Yes, let's have the vote. Make it go through maybe Wednesday or even Friday, that way more...
dave.cantrell@...
Jun 1, 2001 4:53 pm
1797
on 6/1/01 9:47 AM, dave.cantrell@... at ... Gee, I dunno.... 74 messages waiting for me when I got in to work this morning. Guess I shouldn't've...
Gary Teter
bigdog@...
Jun 1, 2001 5:18 pm
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... In addition to what DanBri said, I helped build RSS 1.0, because, believe it or not, I like RSS and the wide community of people and tools that support it....
