... If you want to write something that transforms current HTML into XML, you need to go via an XML version of HTML. Since there are three versions of HTML,...
Mark Birbeck
Mark.Birbeck@...
Sep 1, 1999 12:05 pm
12484
... "areElementsTheSame(name1, ... but ... Aha! An alternative view! Which is, exactly? I'm afraid that the following ... You lost me here. Yes, the output of...
Oren Ben-Kiki
oren@...
Sep 1, 1999 12:22 pm
12485
(We'd better return this to the mailing list - could you forward it there?) ... parse ... David ... Think ... I think this might be the source of our...
Oren Ben-Kiki
oren@...
Sep 1, 1999 12:45 pm
12486
... Simple, clean, cuts to the heart of the matter. This explanation focuses on what namespaces are best at doing, without getting caught up in the murk of...
Simon St.Laurent
simonstl@...
Sep 1, 1999 1:08 pm
12487
... Really? Search engines don't care whether <title>s have images in them? Or whether <h1>'s have <table>'s in them? I'm sure that there are some that don't...
Paul Prescod
paul@...
Sep 1, 1999 1:08 pm
12488
... I don't know how the HTML Writers Guild is structured, but Section 5g of the W3C membership agreement <http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Agreement/Full.html>...
Elliotte Rusty Harold
elharo@...
Sep 1, 1999 1:08 pm
12489
... But not vice versa. A program written for strict will not work with a frameset or transitional document. If the validation layer sees two things as...
Paul Prescod
paul@...
Sep 1, 1999 1:10 pm
12490
... This is the fundamental source of pretty much all of the disagreement on this thread. The problem is that a DTD does (and XML Schemas will do) two...
David Megginson
david@...
Sep 1, 1999 1:53 pm
12491
Paul Prescod wrote, ... Apologies for taking this out of context, but I can't agree with the general point you seem to be making here. I can't see any reason...
Miles Sabin
msabin@...
Sep 1, 1999 1:53 pm
12492
... [etc.] Essentially, Paul and I are arguing two classic positions, both of which are better described in the section "The Rise of Worse is Better" in...
David Megginson
david@...
Sep 1, 1999 2:14 pm
12493
... I think this is the source of our disagreement (I hope it is!), and - obviously - I disagree. The short argument is by example: Consider a C compiler. The...
Oren Ben-Kiki
oren@...
Sep 1, 1999 2:34 pm
12494
... <?email snip?> ... <?email snip?> I think this post is slightly off topic, for talking about XHTML. The debate here is: a) Although there are currently...
Hunter, David
dhunter@...
Sep 1, 1999 2:34 pm
12495
... I admit to not having seen this argument on Plenary, but it's probably one of the more cogent arguments I've seen on the topic (rather than the more ...
Ann Navarro
ann@...
Sep 1, 1999 2:34 pm
12496
I want to develop an XML parser in C or maybe C++ for an undergraduate university project. My approach will be to prototype the parser using flex and bison. As...
Alastair Sumner
als2000@...
Sep 1, 1999 2:49 pm
12497
... Oren goes on to make some excellent points about the relationships between parsers, DTDs, and namespaces. The general problem seems to me to be that XML...
Simon St.Laurent
simonstl@...
Sep 1, 1999 3:00 pm
12498
... Is there's no practical way to specify them separately? For example, suppose that it was possible to use some form of PIs embedded in the document to ...
Oren Ben-Kiki
oren@...
Sep 1, 1999 3:12 pm
12499
It's exactly on topic!! I am arguing that one of the main uses for XHTML *today* is as an intermediary between old HTML and squeaky-clean new XML. That's why...
Mark Birbeck
Mark.Birbeck@...
Sep 1, 1999 3:23 pm
12500
While mapping graphs, say UML models into XML-data schema, what will happen if I do not use "canonical form"? I mean entity properties are mapped to ...
yimin zhu
yiminz@...
Sep 1, 1999 3:23 pm
12501
... 'fraid I don't agree. For the *legacy* HTML you may still need to distinguish where it came from when it is being processed as XHTML. You might have a...
Mark Birbeck
Mark.Birbeck@...
Sep 1, 1999 3:50 pm
12502
... Using your own lexer may be the best approach, but all the "syntax characters" of XML are plain ASCII, so it might well be possible to use [f]lex to...
Richard Tobin
richard@...
Sep 1, 1999 3:51 pm
12503
Please remove my E-mail address in subscription list. xml-dev: A list for W3C XML Developers. To post, mailto:xml-dev@... Archived as:...
David Power
david.power@...
Sep 1, 1999 3:52 pm
12504
But it's not. The purpose of XHTML today and tomorrow is the same as the purpose of HTML was yesterday and today: to convey information to a human. Period....
Hunter, David
dhunter@...
Sep 1, 1999 4:27 pm
12505
Let me try to put this argument on a practical footing. Namespaces are triggers for various things. Stylesheets, validators, etc. For better or worse XHTML has...
Paul Prescod
paul@...
Sep 1, 1999 4:37 pm
12506
This note is only for people really interested in low-level parser im- plementation details; others, please ignore. ... Probably not for an undergraduate...
Richard L. Goerwitz
richard@...
Sep 1, 1999 4:38 pm
12507
... That's a very messy question. Personally, I'd be happy to accept a schema spec that *didn't* specify default values. I don't think that most client-side...
David Megginson
david@...
Sep 1, 1999 4:46 pm
12508
... There's a notion lurking here that I've not heard before. Namely that this artifact (too many namespace URIs :-) may be a nudge to actively discourage...
David Brownell
david-b@...
Sep 1, 1999 4:53 pm
12509
... Fine, but why do you have to use the namespace for this? You can wrap your XHTML fragments with another element, introduce version attribute in <html> ...
Don Park
donpark@...
Sep 1, 1999 5:00 pm
12510
I don't know if it's official but I've been using it. I believe it stands for XML Schema Definition Language. From the Abstract in the working draft: "XML...
Hank Oxford
hoxford@...
Sep 1, 1999 5:28 pm
12511
[David Megginson:] ... My money's on the MIT approach. The New Jersey approach was right only briefly, and then only because it was needed to resolve the most...
Steven R. Newcomb
srn@...
Sep 1, 1999 5:38 pm
12512
By 'canonical form' I assume you mean the style of XML described in the paper I co-authored showing how graphs of objects could be serialized in XML using...
