Hello! EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: I would like to take a currently existing DTD (e.g. Scalable Vector Graphics, SVG), _overlay_ some different semantics onto it, and...
Bill Wadley
bill@...
Apr 1, 1999 12:37 pm
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... There *is* a potentially nasty problem lurking here: the DTD may contain default values for attributes as well as validation information. In the SGML...
David Megginson
david@...
Apr 1, 1999 12:42 pm
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... I suspect strongly that industry practice for XML will diverge as sharply as it did for HTML and SGML, leading to lots of 'practices' that render XML ...
Simon St.Laurent
simonstl@...
Apr 1, 1999 1:41 pm
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... Since market differentation is how companies market their products, it is not in their best interest to follow a standard all that closely anyway. With...
Clark Evans
clark.evans@...
Apr 1, 1999 2:44 pm
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... I think we've all heard this line before, and I think it's time to stop this train before it runs over anyone else. If I hear the word 'innovation' one...
Simon St.Laurent
simonstl@...
Apr 1, 1999 2:44 pm
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Forgive me for asking these which may seem obvious to you! I have been trying to get involved with XML/Java world for the past 3 months. I would like to be...
hassan.hussein@...
Apr 1, 1999 3:04 pm
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... If DTDs *were* only for validation there would be no issue here. However DTDs provide additional functionality beyond validation, namely default attributes...
Jonathan Borden
jborden@...
Apr 1, 1999 3:13 pm
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... I sort of guessed it might be ;-) I was more getting at the idea of context. The following is a 'list of nodes': <name>Mark</name> <name>Tracey</name> ...
Mark Birbeck
Mark.Birbeck@...
Apr 1, 1999 3:41 pm
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... The DOM is an interface that allows an application to discover information about an XML document by walking around it, navigationally. Many XML parsers ...
Kay Michael
Michael.Kay@...
Apr 1, 1999 3:42 pm
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... First, validity is an optional feature of *parsers*. I believe this to be self-evident. I have heard the "no optional features" statement interpreted in...
Paul Prescod
paul@...
Apr 1, 1999 3:43 pm
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... As was probably clear from the rest of my message, the subject line was meant to read "DTDs are not just for validation". All the best, David -- David...
David Megginson
david@...
Apr 1, 1999 3:50 pm
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... What about the scenario where a document claims to conform to some well-known DTD? This viewpoint seems to show a pretty narrow view of the ways in which...
Tom Harding
tomh@...
Apr 1, 1999 3:56 pm
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... Paul's right. There are no options in terms of producing a boolean value (well-formed/not well-formed), but there are very annoying options in terms of...
David Megginson
david@...
Apr 1, 1999 4:06 pm
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HI Jonathan, <YourComment> If DTDs *were* only for validation there would be no issue here. However DTDs provide additional functionality beyond validation,...
Didier PH Martin
martind@...
Apr 1, 1999 4:08 pm
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... That's exactly my point. That's not a list of nodes. That's a list of XML elements. Nodes are abstract. Here's a concrete representation for them (and a...
Paul Prescod
paul@...
Apr 1, 1999 4:33 pm
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Just a thought: How Hard Would It Be, and how unreasonable would it be, to modify the listserver so attachments of any sort are automatically discarded? It's...
keshlam@...
Apr 1, 1999 4:42 pm
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... Actually, a DOM NodeList is something more: it is a dynamic filtered view of the document, a list of nodes WHICH CHANGES AS THE DOCUMENT IS EDITED so that...
keshlam@...
Apr 1, 1999 4:45 pm
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... I haven't had this happen to me in practice. I agree that the SGML declaration mechanism sucks but I've never had it silently fail on me. Usually it...
Paul Prescod
paul@...
Apr 1, 1999 6:01 pm
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aha!! that changes things :-) I had incorrectly assumed you were making an argument that DTDs *ought* only be used for validation to prevent the problem we...
Jonathan Borden
jborden@...
Apr 1, 1999 7:00 pm
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Developers' Day at the Eighth International World Wide Web Conference will take place in Toronto, Ontario, May 14, 1999. Proposals for presentations in the...
Jon Bosak
Jon.Bosak@...
Apr 1, 1999 7:16 pm
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... I'm hoping to have that worked out in the new core SAX2 features. AElfred is one good example of a non-validating parser that reads external entities and...
David Megginson
david@...
Apr 1, 1999 7:18 pm
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See http://www.w3.org/1999/04/REC-Reduced-set. Pretty impressive, with goals I think we all can share. Simon St.Laurent XML: A Primer Sharing Bandwidth /...
Simon St.Laurent
simonstl@...
Apr 1, 1999 7:32 pm
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A short paper I've written called "XML, Integration, and the Smaller Developer" is now available as a _rough draft_ at: ...
Simon St.Laurent
simonstl@...
Apr 1, 1999 7:46 pm
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All, I have a program pretty much ready to go that will take arbitrary RTF + a DTD + a narrative description of "the right markup to use" and generate...
Sean Mc Grath
digitome@...
Apr 1, 1999 7:59 pm
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I believe that the class LexicalEventListener is the proposed basis for the new javax.xml extension. In private conversation with Dave Brownwell of Sun...
Peter Wilson
pwilson@...
Apr 1, 1999 9:10 pm
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Sean McGrath wrote: "I have a program pretty much ready to go that will take arbitrary RTF + a DTD + a narrative description of "the right markup to use" and...
Andrew Layman
andrewl@...
Apr 1, 1999 10:15 pm
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... Yes, but this behavior is up to the parser and this is the problem (getting back to IE5's default behavior). This behavior, as implemented by AElfred, IE5...
Jonathan Borden
jborden@...
Apr 1, 1999 10:17 pm
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... There is no common practice to depend on and no means of specifying common support. Great. From the X3D Contributors list, part of a design discussion ...
Len Bullard
cbullard@...
Apr 1, 1999 11:37 pm
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... See James Clark's "Comparison of SGML and XML" at http://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-sgml-xml-971215. Bob DuCharme www.snee.com/bob <bob@ snee.com> see...
DuCharme, Robert
DuCharmR@...
Apr 2, 1999 12:17 am
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Perhaps DTDs are being used for too many purposes - validation and defaulting attributes/defining entities. The argument is made that once a document has been...
